I don't know if you've already purchased, but I highly recommend this tent. It is a little heavy,but well worth it if you're staying a while and it is cold out. It weighs about 11 lbs. with the stove. We sleep two in it, and it works great. Lots of room to cook and spread out a little. Four men would be tight. One year we got snow and the other two hunters were in our tent mornings and evenings to warm up and cook. Worked great. Being able to dry off and warm up is a lifesaver and a hunt saver. Stove works amazingly well. The pole is very heavy duty, and I've often thought I could use a lighter pole, but haven't bothered. I'm a Ray Jardin fan of ultralight backpacking, but for winter hunts, this is worth the weight. I save weight on other items. If I'm spike camping for just one night in mild weather, I'll use my GoLite Lair. Kifari makes great gear, but it is heavy duty. the zippers on my Kifari will never fail. The price is steep, but this tent will probably last as long as I do.