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<blockquote data-quote="Calvin45" data-source="post: 2953169" data-attributes="member: 109862"><p>As far as cats….while they can indeed be very friendly, I've also long realized that there is a reason we can have dogs up to 200 pounds in extreme cases and cats….domestic cats have to top out around 20 pounds or so. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></p><p></p><p>Two reasons I think.</p><p></p><p> 1. Domestic dogs are all descended from wolves ultimately. The small dogs came later; not first. Domestic cats descend from wild cats that were more or less the same size as they are now. Our history with dogs goes back way further too, to hunter/gatherer days. At some point we and our old nemesis the wolf found a mutually beneficial way to coexist and work together. Truly even without any kind of distance weapons, a group of humans and a pack of wolves hunting together was a force of nature with no precedent. It is believed that had a lot to do with the sudden extinction of all kinds of "ice age" megafauna. We were too dang good at killing everything. Cats and humans only really started mingling once we started being sustained by agriculture and not hunting and gathering (notably in Egypt and the Fertile Crescent/Sumerian valley): where grain is amassed and stored in quantity, rodents and other pests become an inevitability and eat the grain! The kind of cats that specialize in hunting such critters therefore begin to live on a permanent basis among human settlements and proved to be very very useful and valuable. The rest, as they say, is history. And while wolves can be terrifying for sure, they are social creatures with social intelligence and an innate understanding of and capacity for group cooperation…and cats are not (except lions!) Any attempt at domesticating or being "permitted" to hunt in tandem with a wolf-sized cat would be laughable. It most likely just wouldn't stick around in the first place, or it'd kill you. One of those options.</p><p></p><p>2. This is an extension of reason number one. While our small cats can be wonderful friends and even express empathy and playfulness and such…I firmly believe that a cat the size of a Saint Bernard would only see you as an easy meal, or, even more likely on account of feline indifference <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" />, couldn't even be bothered to regard you as anything at all!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Calvin45, post: 2953169, member: 109862"] As far as cats….while they can indeed be very friendly, I've also long realized that there is a reason we can have dogs up to 200 pounds in extreme cases and cats….domestic cats have to top out around 20 pounds or so. 🤣 Two reasons I think. 1. Domestic dogs are all descended from wolves ultimately. The small dogs came later; not first. Domestic cats descend from wild cats that were more or less the same size as they are now. Our history with dogs goes back way further too, to hunter/gatherer days. At some point we and our old nemesis the wolf found a mutually beneficial way to coexist and work together. Truly even without any kind of distance weapons, a group of humans and a pack of wolves hunting together was a force of nature with no precedent. It is believed that had a lot to do with the sudden extinction of all kinds of "ice age" megafauna. We were too dang good at killing everything. Cats and humans only really started mingling once we started being sustained by agriculture and not hunting and gathering (notably in Egypt and the Fertile Crescent/Sumerian valley): where grain is amassed and stored in quantity, rodents and other pests become an inevitability and eat the grain! The kind of cats that specialize in hunting such critters therefore begin to live on a permanent basis among human settlements and proved to be very very useful and valuable. The rest, as they say, is history. And while wolves can be terrifying for sure, they are social creatures with social intelligence and an innate understanding of and capacity for group cooperation…and cats are not (except lions!) Any attempt at domesticating or being "permitted" to hunt in tandem with a wolf-sized cat would be laughable. It most likely just wouldn't stick around in the first place, or it'd kill you. One of those options. 2. This is an extension of reason number one. While our small cats can be wonderful friends and even express empathy and playfulness and such…I firmly believe that a cat the size of a Saint Bernard would only see you as an easy meal, or, even more likely on account of feline indifference 🤣, couldn't even be bothered to regard you as anything at all!!! [/QUOTE]
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