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Berger VLD pencil through Elk in Cold?
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<blockquote data-quote="lancetkenyon" data-source="post: 2661417" data-attributes="member: 68875"><p>If you are shooting at approximately 2950fps, that bullet is leaving the barrel at approximately 800°F. It is not the cold ambient temps that are causing the issue.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.hornady.com/assets/site/hornady/files/resources/ELD-X_ELD-Match_Technical_Details.pdf[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Your sample size of 1 does not show any factual data. "No meat damage at enteance or exit" is not enough to tell the tale. How was the 18"+ between those two holes? How were the internal organs? If that cow died within a few hundred yards, I highly doubt a pencil-through. More likely, part of the bullet exited at a very slow speed and expending most of it's energy inside the animal. All the blood stayed inside the animal.</p><p></p><p>As for your bull, winter conditions of thick absorbant hair, thick layers of fat, and the muscle mass can close off an entrance hole from a bullet. And more than likely, there was not an exit hole. Hense, no blood. I am not sure how youbcould have seen impact at an exact location on the elk from 300 yards away, but let's say your are correct. I had a buddy who shot a bull with his 7RM pushing a 168 HVLD at 3050fps MV, and the shot was at approximately 75 yards. I watched the shot, heard the "whop", watched the bull hunch and gather himself and bolt off. I tracked that bull in the fresh snow for 3.5 miles. One drop of blood in the entire tracking job. Found where he bedded down about 1/2 mile, but apparently I jumped him. Anout 2 hours later, I heard another shot fairly close. 3.5 miles later, I found some guys over the bull. They said he was just standing there, head down when they spotted him from 200 yards and shot him. I told them congrats and the story, and asked if I could watch while they cleaned it. Two bullet holes going in within about 6" of each other. No exits from either. Only blood on the ground is when they opened him up. It was a kiddie pool inside of that bull through. Never found either bullet inside.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lancetkenyon, post: 2661417, member: 68875"] If you are shooting at approximately 2950fps, that bullet is leaving the barrel at approximately 800°F. It is not the cold ambient temps that are causing the issue. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.hornady.com/assets/site/hornady/files/resources/ELD-X_ELD-Match_Technical_Details.pdf[/URL] Your sample size of 1 does not show any factual data. "No meat damage at enteance or exit" is not enough to tell the tale. How was the 18"+ between those two holes? How were the internal organs? If that cow died within a few hundred yards, I highly doubt a pencil-through. More likely, part of the bullet exited at a very slow speed and expending most of it's energy inside the animal. All the blood stayed inside the animal. As for your bull, winter conditions of thick absorbant hair, thick layers of fat, and the muscle mass can close off an entrance hole from a bullet. And more than likely, there was not an exit hole. Hense, no blood. I am not sure how youbcould have seen impact at an exact location on the elk from 300 yards away, but let's say your are correct. I had a buddy who shot a bull with his 7RM pushing a 168 HVLD at 3050fps MV, and the shot was at approximately 75 yards. I watched the shot, heard the "whop", watched the bull hunch and gather himself and bolt off. I tracked that bull in the fresh snow for 3.5 miles. One drop of blood in the entire tracking job. Found where he bedded down about 1/2 mile, but apparently I jumped him. Anout 2 hours later, I heard another shot fairly close. 3.5 miles later, I found some guys over the bull. They said he was just standing there, head down when they spotted him from 200 yards and shot him. I told them congrats and the story, and asked if I could watch while they cleaned it. Two bullet holes going in within about 6" of each other. No exits from either. Only blood on the ground is when they opened him up. It was a kiddie pool inside of that bull through. Never found either bullet inside. [/QUOTE]
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