dale guthormsen
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I too am waiting on teeka 6.5 PRC. a heavy long barrel version.Go for it, I've got a few 270 myself and I'm waiting on tikkas 6.5 prc when it comes out personally!
I too am waiting on teeka 6.5 PRC. a heavy long barrel version.Go for it, I've got a few 270 myself and I'm waiting on tikkas 6.5 prc when it comes out personally!
I am just saying I don't think there is a material difference between a 6.5 and a 7mm. If a guy with a 30 cal is shooting a 150gr - 200gr bullet, I dont think there is a material difference there either, especially at long range where you are giving up BC. Once you get into the 215-230gr range with the 30 cal, it is worth moving up from a 6.5 or 7mm. Just my opinion - I think you are splitting hairs with the 6.5 7mm debate.I'm not talking about an elk quartering away at 800 yards. Obviously at LR you usually have all the time in the world to wait for a nice broadside shot, I dont condone taking anything but a nice broadside shot past 500-600 yards... The shots I am more talking about are the ones you bust out of the timber or brush at 50-100 yards, running up the opposite side of draw 200-300 yards, or maybe quartering away at 300-400 yards. So yes, I'll take a nice magnum with a bullet that has the energy and penetration to still do maximum damage if a perfect hit isnt made, because we are still human afterall. If I only have 1 opportunity at elk, I will not be limited to a pop gun, if others want to, that's their prerogative. But yes you're right, to each their own.
Thought this was a 7 mag vs 6.5 PRC discussion has run off the rail. ?
Just a little clarification for you. There may people who want to buy a factory 7mm Rem Mag with a 1:8 twist so they should be given accurate information. The X-bolt rifles chambered in 7mm that have a stainless barrel, such as the X-bolt pro, Eclipse Hunter, stainless stalker, etc. all have 1 in 9-1/2. The carbon steel barreled Long Range rifles, such as the Hells Canyon Long Range have 1-8 twist. This is a change as of about two years ago so there could still be HC LR rifles out there that have the 9-1/2. All of the Browning rifles manufactured today with a fast twist rate will have it stamped in the barrel.I do [ever so slightly] prefer the 6.5 PRC to 7mmRM, but I certainly didn't tweak the data to make it appear superior. I don't believe Browning does make a 7mm Rem Mag in an 8 twist. They had some rifles in 7mmRM showing 8 and some 9.5 on their website back in December (and still today it appears). Back then, I called Browning directly to inquire why some models weren't available in the 8 twist, and they said actually none of them were. I suppose it is possible they are now manufacturing some models in 8 twist, but that would be news to me.
Regardless, the OP might not want a Browning - and I am certain that you would agree - "most" factory 7mmRM rifles don't come with a twist rate fast enough to shoot the heaviest bullet offerings, but "most" factory rifles in 6.5 PRC do.
It's also funny how people always get defensive when another voices support for a cartridge different from what they personally prefer. I'd wager that you own a 7mm Remington Magnum?
No worries, they are both excellent cartridges, and the OP would be well served by either.
I'm thinking about purchasing one of these calibers for deer/elk at a max of about 500 yards and wanted to know what people thought about the merits of each caliber and obviously 7mm has alot more factory options and can load a heavier bullet but is the extra recoil worth it at the end of the day when it comes to performance on game and before peoe say anything about a 300 i have had one and cant shoot one as consistently as I'd like do to recoil.
Thats the way I'm leaning6.5 PRC, ALL DAY LONG!
I too am waiting on teeka 6.5 PRC. a heavy long barrel version.
7mm all the way more knock down power more animal got away to die and not found with a 6.5 caliberI'm not talking about an elk quartering away at 800 yards. Obviously at LR you usually have all the time in the world to wait for a nice broadside shot, I dont condone taking anything but a nice broadside shot past 500-600 yards... The shots I am more talking about are the ones you bust out of the timber or brush at 50-100 yards, running up the opposite side of draw 200-300 yards, or maybe quartering away at 300-400 yards. So yes, I'll take a nice magnum with a bullet that has the energy and penetration to still do maximum damage if a perfect hit isnt made, because we are still human afterall. If I only have 1 opportunity at elk, I will not be limited to a pop gun, if others want to, that's their prerogative. But yes you're right, to each their own.
So big animals like Elk and Moose, when hit well behind the shoulder, might take a couple seconds to die. Guys will put 4 or 5 rounds in them with a 7mm or 300 thinking they dont have enough gun. So they go buy something bigger. Really, its dead on its feet, it just takes a few seconds for them to realize it. Everybody thinks their legs should just come out from under them - this only happens with a head, spine, high shoulder shot.
Don't caliber up for the perfect shot. Caliber up for the worst shot.
I kinda figured the recoil is definitely more stout in the 7 mag and on game is there really going to be a massive difference with good shot placement