.45-70 Grizz Defense

[WYO300RUM]

You take good care of that horse. It's a life saver for sure!!!!??

Horses will see and hear things way before a human. That's a good thing.

 

[WYO300RUM]

Sorry guys I maybe haven't been clear.

There's 3 of us, shooter, caller, spotter.

The one without the bow that day will be carrying the firepower. We'll be in thick timber.

And thank you for all the suggestions!

Oh now you tell us !!!

 

[dallen0427]

You take good care of that horse. It's a life saver for sure!!!!??

He's a hoot……that's actually his name, big Hoot. He has been On a lot of good hunts.

 

[WYO300RUM]

He's a hoot……that's actually his name, big Hoot. He has been On a lot of good hunts. View attachment 377713

Palomino's have been my favorite horse since I was a little kid. Beautiful horse.
Now that I enlarged the pic it looks like he has some appaloosa in him. I see spots.

 

[bigngreen]

Horses will see and hear things way before a human. That's a good thing.

I've been riding along minding my own business when all of the sudden I was no longer seated on a horse but in a pile on the ground, grizzly had killed a moose and covered it up and rode right into it, it was a short walk to the trailer so over all came out good.

 

[msauce1]

Rest assured. There's not a grizzly bear on the planet that will walk or charge through a properly loaded 45-70 with hard cast bullets 350 grains and up at 1900-2000 fps. They kill on one end and darn near cripple on the other. The recoil is fierce without a mercury tube or muzzle brake. No plastic tips or softpoints please.

Brian Pierce has used them in Africa on Cape Buffalo with NO problems. These are Ruger #1's or Browning 1895 underlever guns. Not sure about the Marlin action with these stiff loads, but the bear will lose all interest in this world with a center mass hit with one of these.

1972 and newer marlins is what the box says. shot my first Brn. Black bear last season it did'nt go 10 feet.

 

[WYO300RUM]

I've been riding along minding my own business when all of the sudden I was no longer seated on a horse but in a pile on the ground, grizzly had killed a moose and covered it up and rode right into it, it was a short walk to the trailer so over all came out good.

Wow ! Glad no bear on the moose ! About 10 years ago I turned off the South Fork to drive up Aldrige Drainage road. Ihadn't gone 100 yds. when a sow griz and 2 cubs went flying by me to the road and crossed it. I watched them run down almost to the river. Maybe .75 mile. Stopped and the two cubs started wrestling with each other. I drove up about 1.5 mi. and parked. Hunted. Came back to truck and started driving back out. In a little ways I looked at a magpie sitting on a branch on the ground. I thought it looked like an antler. Used binos and it was. About 100 yds from the dirt road I was on. Didn't see it on way up but was just getting light. Stick with me. Almost done with story. I walked over to it and it was a nice 4x5 buck. The hind qtrs and back straps eaten. Dirt and sage clawed up.over it and bear poop all over. The hair on my neck stood up. I went back to truck and got rifle and saw to cut antlers off. I got back to buck and set rifle down with bipod out. Started cutting . Stop. Look around. Repeating. Then I saw the truck that was parked not far from me when I drove out. He was driving out. I waved for him to come here.i told him hold my rifle while I saw. He turn around and round watching. He was freaked out. Was from N.C. I got them off and told him it was the sow and two cubs that blew by me on way in. Thanked him and we took off. I stopped at the game check station and asked if it was legal to cut the antlers off a grizzly kill on Nat. Forest. He said yes but how much was eaten ? Told him. He said I'd wait one more day until they finish it. I said okay. Lol ! I still wonder if the sow actually killed it or somebody shot it and didn't find or what. It was laying in a flat area. No drag marks around it.

 

[GlacierBlue]

To fully understand your question…..will you be hunting only in "dense timber" or "dense grizzly" populations?

The reason I ask, if "always" in dense timber/cover…..the 45-70 is a good logical choice!

If the hunt will be in mixed country (dense and open) all in the same day of hunting…..the 45-70 may seriously limit your opportunities when in open country!

Unless your "other" elk rifle is of small caliber with relatively "fragile" bullets……one "all purpose" rifle/cartridge/bullet may be a better option! JMO memtb

Wish I could find those rounds around here haha

Bear spray is overrated, and you need to be up close when you use it. I would use Garrett's 45-70+P Hammerheads at 420gr (kicks like a mule but effective).

 

[westexhunt]

I like that weapon!! Dont need one but want one. Are you satisfied with the quality??

I've got a decent assortment of lever guns. Winchester pre and post 1964, JM Marlins, late rem Marlins, browning 92's, Rossi etc. I just like lever guns. This Ruger Marlin is slick, well fit and finished and just a fine rifle. Would compare it to the early Winchester's and the browning 92. Would put it ahead of the JM Marlins (but it did cost 2.5x what they did). I can say that the 1895 suppressed is just a great combo. It hits the steel so hard your ears ring (just from the impact). Really a fun gun.

 

[Lenny Foffa]

Not a bad Option, my Rem. 870 Glug Gun, Rifled barrel, Thumb Hole Pistol Grip, Leupold 1.5X to 5X vari X 3 . Shoots 2/34 or 3 inch Rem Slugs pretty well at 50 to 100 yards. I purchased it for Ohio Whitetail deer, but It would make a good camp gun, in bear Country.

 

[memtb]

Not a bad Option, my Rem. 870 Glug Gun, Rifled barrel, Thumb Hole Pistol Grip, Leupold 1.5X to 5X vari X 3 . Shoots 2/34 or 3 inch Rem Slugs pretty well at 50 to 100 yards. I purchased it for Ohio Whitetail deer, but It would make a good camp gun, in bear Country.

Yes…..with the "proper" slugs. All slugs "are not" created equal!

And shot (buck shot) is an absolute "no-no"…..unless you hope to blind the bear, and slip quietly away! memtb

 

[MW204]

Not a bad Option, my Rem. 870 Glug Gun, Rifled barrel, Thumb Hole Pistol Grip, Leupold 1.5X to 5X vari X 3 . Shoots 2/34 or 3 inch Rem Slugs pretty well at 50 to 100 yards. I purchased it for Ohio Whitetail deer, but It would make a good camp gun, in bear Country.

I posted this earlier, this slug was recovered from the 3rd gallon jug of water I shot. It is the tried and true Federal 2-3/4" lead slug, it looked exactly as you see it in this pic when I recovered it out of the 3rd jug. Number 1 I thought it would have penetrated more jugs of water, I had 6-7 of them lined up, that's no fur, hide, muscle, or bone and it stopped in the 3rd jug of water. There may be better slugs out there but I would not risk my life on any of them until I did some type of testing on them.

 

[RidgeTop]

I went with the Marlin 1895M, .450Marlin. This cartridge shoots slightly lighter bullet but exceeds the 45-70 by about 50% in every performance measure. Operates at twice the pressure of the 45-70.

 

[RidgeTop]

Sorry guys should've specified, we will be archery hunting. And in dense timber.

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