xp project in the works

[B Jordan]

i am interested in building an xp for pdog hunting around the 1000 yds mark what is the lightest recoiling caliber that would work well enough to get me there ?
here is what i had on my mind just wondering what you guys thought

1. 6.5x284
2. 6mmx284
3. 243 win??????
4. 243 ackly???
5. 7mm wsm
6. 270 wsm

i dont really know about the 243win or 243 ackly i have had good luck with them to around 1200 with dtacs out of a rifle but was concerned about the loss of velocity with the shorter barrel i really would rather stay away from the wsm's because of the recoil if anyone has a better idea on the caliber please speak up they are just what come to mind

i emailed joel russo tonight about a lee six style rear grip stock is this a good choice for a stock?


thanks for you help in advance,Brian

 

[Joel Russo]

Brian,

E-mail sent..

Send "xphunter", Ernie, a pm and ask him all your questions.
He's a great guy and very knowledgable with the build your talking about.

 

[wildcat]

All the calibers you listed will work great. Out of the ones you listed, I would say the 6.5x284 is your best choice.

W.

 

[Ernie]

I am interested in building an xp for pdog hunting around the 1000 yds mark what is the lightest recoiling caliber that would work well enough to get me there ?
here is what i had on my mind just wondering what you guys thought
1. 6.5x284
2. 6mmx284
3. 243 win??????
4. 243 ackly???
5. 7mm wsm
6. 270 wsm
I emailed Joel Russo tonight about a Lee Six style rear grip stock is this a good choice for a stock?
thanks for you help in advance,Brian

Brian,
The Lee 6 would work, and Joel also can build you laminated rear-grip McMillan BR clone. I have a rear grip McMillan BR stock on my 6.5-284 and I like it.
You don't need to go to a WSM for 1K. Your first 4 listed would get you there.
I have gone beyond 1k on pd's with both the 6-284 and 6.5-284.
Eric Wallace got so close several times a couple of weeks ago with a rear grip XP in 6mm-6.5x47 Lapua between 1,400-1,600 yards it wasn't funny.
I would go with a 1-8 twist with your 6.5's and 7.5 to 8 twist on the 6mm's.
You will lose around 300 fps (give/take) when using a 17-18 inch barrel.
Hope this gets you started-Sounds liek you are on the right track.

 

[B Jordan]

You will lose around 300 fps (give/take) when using a 17-18 inch barrel.

is it legal to build an xp with a barrel over 16"?

 

[B Jordan]

also was wondering about muzzle break choices do i want more of a hole in the top to stop muzzle rise? or by the time you factor in a heavy barrel was planing to have a 1" muzzle the rear grip and the bipod on the front will it kick more like a rifle ?

 

[buzzgun]

Yes.....there are no Federal Laws regulating the maximum length of a pistol barrel........

 

[Ernie]

also was wondering about muzzle break choices do i want more of a hole in the top to stop muzzle rise? or by the time you factor in a heavy barrel was planing to have a 1" muzzle the rear grip and the bipod on the front will it kick more like a rifle ?

Brian,
Buzz is correct.
The brakes I prefer are of this style:
Holland's Quick Discharge, Shawn's Defensive Edge, Lawton's paritition brake, and Kirby's (but i don't have one of his, yet).
These are all solid-bottomed brakes. Kirby's & Shawn's have no top ports while Holland's has three circular ported on top and Lawton's has one.

Any of these will work well. Combined with a heavy barrel it will be very little recoil-easy to use a rifle scope with.
Eric's 6x47 Laupa allows him to spot his own shots some of the time.

 

[Ernie]

Brian,
What part of the country are you from?

 

[B Jordan]

south central missouri

 

[Ernie]

Doe Run has 1k matches (600 yds. also?) and it is in SW Missouri.
If you like to travel, there is an all handgun comp in Sundance WY (500, 750, & 1k).
If you enjoy LR shooting this would give you some other opportunities besides pd's

 

[392lightning]

You may want to check with your State of Missouri on the maximum barrel length allowed on a handgun. While "buzzgun" is correct in that there are not any Federal Regulations on pistol barrel length. It will vary State to State. Where I live in New York State the maximum legal barrel length is 16 inches. There is no minimum barrel length. Autoloading pistols must have a barrel length of less than 8 inches. Good luck with your project. I hope this helps some.

 

[B Jordan]

does it make a big differance if the stock is rear grip or mid grip in the way it kicks? i was just thinking a reargrip would keep the muzzle from jumping as bad

the reason i was asking is i am trying to get this project going before i go pd hunting in about a month and it seems that someone has bought up every rear grip xp stock in the USA and since i have no preferance because i have only shot a contender a few hundred times it would make no differance to me if it was reargrip or midgrip if there is no advantage when shooting off a bench

 

[Ernie]

With a heavy barrel and a good brake either will work for you
Rear grip allows you to buy a trigger like the Jewell.
Have you contacted Joel Russo or Neal (338Hammer) about rear grip stocks?