Rob, the Savage Ml'ers have all but dried up, as soon as the notice that Savage will no longer produce them. I have watched the sales of the Savage ML'ers go fast. I did a search of the net and found one dealer that had four FS, I called a day later and they were all sold. You will see them advertised on Gunbroker for way eleavated prices. If your search is unsucessful you may want to think on the lines of an Action and a McGowan barrel You can get the whole setup for $700.00. Also a Remington 700 ML'er rifle with a McGowan barrel. If you do a search of some of the Savage ML'er sights you can get a wealth of information on them. I you would like I could call you and give you more information on building your own Smokeless ML'er. Lou