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What to buy? NX8 or MK5HD
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<blockquote data-quote="Longrange13" data-source="post: 3023563" data-attributes="member: 128446"><p>Mark 5 was my favorite all around scope when it came out but I'm dumping them all now. My 5-25 shifted zero about 3.5 moa just riding in the truck on bumpy roads for 5 days. It never took an impact. MDT just did a YouTube video and they could change the zero by 3+ inches on the mark 5 by carrying the rifle by the scope or by putting pressure on it while shooting like a lot of people do. </p><p></p><p>My 3.6-18 is still on my 7 prc, I baby the crap out of that gun and periodically it will shift 1-2moa left in zero wind conditions and after 5-10 shots shift back. Gun was built with no expense spared and everything is properly installed.</p><p></p><p>My buddy has a vx5 on his truck gun and he drives a lot of bumpy roads with it riding supported between his seat, the floor, and the center console. Everything is properly installed and he has to re-zero every time we go shoot. Its alway around 3-5 moa off in any direction. I have a 4-16 atacr on my truck gun that faces the same abuse and it is always dead on. The mark 5 isn't as bad as the vx5, but sill has issues. Leupold has thin tubes to cut weight and they also used aluminum internall components instead of brass, steel, and titanium to save weight. They also don't bed their lenses. All this saves weight but they don't hold zero.</p><p></p><p> Military guys won't notice 3-5moa shifts because they never get the same lot of ammo so they are constantly re-zeroing. Combat is also a shooting gallery, not a set play like hunting. They are trained to spot impacts and adjust accordingly in a dynamic situation. That usually won't work in a hunting situation. Often you only have one opportunity to make the shot. </p><p></p><p>Leupold did get the reticles right. They are far superior to Nightforce. I have also noticed that a lot of times when I make small adjustments with Nightforce scopes (1.5ish moa or less) it takes a couple shots for the zero to move into the place I adjusted it. This can be fixed by always dialing a few moa past where I want to be and coming back. Other than that Nightforce has it nailed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Longrange13, post: 3023563, member: 128446"] Mark 5 was my favorite all around scope when it came out but I’m dumping them all now. My 5-25 shifted zero about 3.5 moa just riding in the truck on bumpy roads for 5 days. It never took an impact. MDT just did a YouTube video and they could change the zero by 3+ inches on the mark 5 by carrying the rifle by the scope or by putting pressure on it while shooting like a lot of people do. My 3.6-18 is still on my 7 prc, I baby the crap out of that gun and periodically it will shift 1-2moa left in zero wind conditions and after 5-10 shots shift back. Gun was built with no expense spared and everything is properly installed. My buddy has a vx5 on his truck gun and he drives a lot of bumpy roads with it riding supported between his seat, the floor, and the center console. Everything is properly installed and he has to re-zero every time we go shoot. Its alway around 3-5 moa off in any direction. I have a 4-16 atacr on my truck gun that faces the same abuse and it is always dead on. The mark 5 isn’t as bad as the vx5, but sill has issues. Leupold has thin tubes to cut weight and they also used aluminum internall components instead of brass, steel, and titanium to save weight. They also don’t bed their lenses. All this saves weight but they don’t hold zero. Military guys won’t notice 3-5moa shifts because they never get the same lot of ammo so they are constantly re-zeroing. Combat is also a shooting gallery, not a set play like hunting. They are trained to spot impacts and adjust accordingly in a dynamic situation. That usually won’t work in a hunting situation. Often you only have one opportunity to make the shot. Leupold did get the reticles right. They are far superior to Nightforce. I have also noticed that a lot of times when I make small adjustments with Nightforce scopes (1.5ish moa or less) it takes a couple shots for the zero to move into the place I adjusted it. This can be fixed by always dialing a few moa past where I want to be and coming back. Other than that Nightforce has it nailed. [/QUOTE]
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