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<blockquote data-quote="Scot E" data-source="post: 607523" data-attributes="member: 10832"><p>Doping the wind is half science and half art form. The guys that can do it best get very good at gaining a feel for everything that is going on down range then adding the science part to it, ie the wind meter readings and maybe also some mid to far range wind indications as well, to get a final result. This is especially true in mountain country which is where I do most of my shooting. </p><p></p><p>Because of that I personally like to hold for wind. I think it is the best way to make quick changes in the conditions while still having a specific place to hold. To be clear, I don't hold for windage with a duplex style reticle. That is just guessing. Instead I personally use a MIL hash reticle so there are specific hold points for me on the main horizontal crosshair in 1/2 MIL increments. Then as conditions, and my ability to read them change, I can make slight changes in my hold without moving out of my shooting form to adjust the windage dial. </p><p></p><p>I have really grown to like the graduated reticle system. And that is saying something since I have dialed for windage and elevation for years and years. I like it so well I have been playing with a couple fully graduated MIL hash reticles for elevation and windage hold offs. It will take some time but I can see myself going solely to that method, especially out to 6-800 yards, and never having to touch the dials except for longer shots beyond 800 yards or so. </p><p></p><p>One item of note. There are some real world reasons why using a reticle for elevation or windage hold offs is a valid reason to reduce or eliminate error. Especially with an FFP reticle that has been verified to be etched accurately, there is no way for the subtentions to change over time. That isn't necessarily true with turrets. All turrets despite their quality at least have the potential for wear with use and that wear will change their tracking to some degree. With the high quality scopes I am likely talking about a non issue due to how well the turret assemblies are made. But I have seen some of them go bad much faster than I would have anticipated. But this is especially true with the low to mid level scopes that a lot of gents are forced to buy because of budget constraints. On the low to mid level scopes you also often see a difference in tracking when just the elevation turret is adjusted compared to if you are adjusting both windage and elevation. By using the reticle only, once you get the zero set to your shooting area and conditions you just don't have to mess with any internal adjustments and worry about issues. </p><p></p><p>For his use the perfect scope for me would be a quality FFP scope that would allow me to shoot using a good 1/2 MIL hash reticle out to 5-800 yards (depending on conditions). These closer shots are the ones that you are likely to need to get off a quick shot and by not having to dial any turrets you can do that very quickly by using the reticle. Then at longer distances I would still have the high quality turrets to make any precise adjustments needed to properly place a bullet in the boiler room at LR. There are a few good ones out there now and I think there are more coming down the pipe in coming months and years. </p><p></p><p>My take and the direction I have been moving lately.</p><p></p><p>Scot E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scot E, post: 607523, member: 10832"] Doping the wind is half science and half art form. The guys that can do it best get very good at gaining a feel for everything that is going on down range then adding the science part to it, ie the wind meter readings and maybe also some mid to far range wind indications as well, to get a final result. This is especially true in mountain country which is where I do most of my shooting. Because of that I personally like to hold for wind. I think it is the best way to make quick changes in the conditions while still having a specific place to hold. To be clear, I don't hold for windage with a duplex style reticle. That is just guessing. Instead I personally use a MIL hash reticle so there are specific hold points for me on the main horizontal crosshair in 1/2 MIL increments. Then as conditions, and my ability to read them change, I can make slight changes in my hold without moving out of my shooting form to adjust the windage dial. I have really grown to like the graduated reticle system. And that is saying something since I have dialed for windage and elevation for years and years. I like it so well I have been playing with a couple fully graduated MIL hash reticles for elevation and windage hold offs. It will take some time but I can see myself going solely to that method, especially out to 6-800 yards, and never having to touch the dials except for longer shots beyond 800 yards or so. One item of note. There are some real world reasons why using a reticle for elevation or windage hold offs is a valid reason to reduce or eliminate error. Especially with an FFP reticle that has been verified to be etched accurately, there is no way for the subtentions to change over time. That isn't necessarily true with turrets. All turrets despite their quality at least have the potential for wear with use and that wear will change their tracking to some degree. With the high quality scopes I am likely talking about a non issue due to how well the turret assemblies are made. But I have seen some of them go bad much faster than I would have anticipated. But this is especially true with the low to mid level scopes that a lot of gents are forced to buy because of budget constraints. On the low to mid level scopes you also often see a difference in tracking when just the elevation turret is adjusted compared to if you are adjusting both windage and elevation. By using the reticle only, once you get the zero set to your shooting area and conditions you just don't have to mess with any internal adjustments and worry about issues. For his use the perfect scope for me would be a quality FFP scope that would allow me to shoot using a good 1/2 MIL hash reticle out to 5-800 yards (depending on conditions). These closer shots are the ones that you are likely to need to get off a quick shot and by not having to dial any turrets you can do that very quickly by using the reticle. Then at longer distances I would still have the high quality turrets to make any precise adjustments needed to properly place a bullet in the boiler room at LR. There are a few good ones out there now and I think there are more coming down the pipe in coming months and years. My take and the direction I have been moving lately. Scot E. [/QUOTE]
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