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<blockquote data-quote="Autorotate" data-source="post: 418998" data-attributes="member: 8073"><p>Hinkara-I didn't either once upon a time, but have come to value these type devices for certain applications as my knowledge of exterior ballistics progressed.</p><p></p><p>Specifically, I've learned that fumbling around with a kestral, drop chart, PDA, etc may not be necessary if you shoot a very high performance round, and limit yourself to yardages to which you've trained/practiced your ability to judge wind and shoot the rifle within.</p><p></p><p>Example; the <strong><u><a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/je-custom-lone-wolf-30-338-lapua-improved-weatherby-mark-v-54231/" target="_blank">30-338 Lapua that JE Custom/Lone Wolf built here</a></u></strong> can shoot the relatively high BC bullets like the 208 Amax/210 VLD bullet at very high velocities.... minimizing the effects of wind at all distances, but especially at shorter ones. If one was to limit themselves to a range 600 to 800 yards, and winds of no more than 5-7 mph, after running the exterior ballistics numbers on that specific combo....you have a scenario, where you hunt with a laser and your custom turret, and hold for wind. With this specific rifle/bullet combination, and a 200 yard zero, the windage for a 7 mph wind is nearly identical for the elevation correction at the same yardage. Winds over 7 mph at my location is about where my ability to correctly judge it starts to falter, and it's effect on the bullet at distances over 600-800 yard edge it out of the smart zone.....for me in a hasty type scenario.</p><p></p><p>If you encounter a shot outside of your predetermined limits learned from practice with that rifle/bullet/optic combination, you take your time to plug in the enviros into a computer, or consult a drop chart, dial the appropriate correction, and then take a more deliberate shot.</p><p></p><p>IMO...there is great value in categorizing LR hunting approaches into two basic styles.....</p><p></p><p>Hasty-LRF, custom turret, high horsepower high BC rifle, shots confined to predetermined limits on range and wind conditions.</p><p></p><p>Deliberate-LRF, Kestral, PDA, Spotter, multiple wind calls from between spotter/shooter, longer distances.</p><p></p><p>I agree with you on the turret would only be good for one set of conditions, one bullet, one MV....but many LRH are shooting setups that once they find the magic powder/bullet combo for that rifle....they stick with it for the life of the rifle. Many of these combos are hunted with in the same enviro range...and if kept within shorter ranges, the ballistic differences from small changes in (temp, humidty, altitude) don't reveal themselves as much as farther ranges.</p><p></p><p>I'm always attempting to learn....so would appreciate to hear your feedback on my response!</p><p></p><p>Good on Vortex to offer this!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Autorotate, post: 418998, member: 8073"] Hinkara-I didn't either once upon a time, but have come to value these type devices for certain applications as my knowledge of exterior ballistics progressed. Specifically, I've learned that fumbling around with a kestral, drop chart, PDA, etc may not be necessary if you shoot a very high performance round, and limit yourself to yardages to which you've trained/practiced your ability to judge wind and shoot the rifle within. Example; the [B][U][URL="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/je-custom-lone-wolf-30-338-lapua-improved-weatherby-mark-v-54231/"]30-338 Lapua that JE Custom/Lone Wolf built here[/URL][/U][/B] can shoot the relatively high BC bullets like the 208 Amax/210 VLD bullet at very high velocities.... minimizing the effects of wind at all distances, but especially at shorter ones. If one was to limit themselves to a range 600 to 800 yards, and winds of no more than 5-7 mph, after running the exterior ballistics numbers on that specific combo....you have a scenario, where you hunt with a laser and your custom turret, and hold for wind. With this specific rifle/bullet combination, and a 200 yard zero, the windage for a 7 mph wind is nearly identical for the elevation correction at the same yardage. Winds over 7 mph at my location is about where my ability to correctly judge it starts to falter, and it's effect on the bullet at distances over 600-800 yard edge it out of the smart zone.....for me in a hasty type scenario. If you encounter a shot outside of your predetermined limits learned from practice with that rifle/bullet/optic combination, you take your time to plug in the enviros into a computer, or consult a drop chart, dial the appropriate correction, and then take a more deliberate shot. IMO...there is great value in categorizing LR hunting approaches into two basic styles..... Hasty-LRF, custom turret, high horsepower high BC rifle, shots confined to predetermined limits on range and wind conditions. Deliberate-LRF, Kestral, PDA, Spotter, multiple wind calls from between spotter/shooter, longer distances. I agree with you on the turret would only be good for one set of conditions, one bullet, one MV....but many LRH are shooting setups that once they find the magic powder/bullet combo for that rifle....they stick with it for the life of the rifle. Many of these combos are hunted with in the same enviro range...and if kept within shorter ranges, the ballistic differences from small changes in (temp, humidty, altitude) don't reveal themselves as much as farther ranges. I'm always attempting to learn....so would appreciate to hear your feedback on my response! Good on Vortex to offer this! [/QUOTE]
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