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True MACHINIST gunsmiths? (a rare breed)
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<blockquote data-quote="BountyHunter" data-source="post: 1478518" data-attributes="member: 12"><p>This is interesting thread and shows the wishfull thinking in some areas such as a local smith being able to lap a barrel. NOT no but hell no. The barrel mftrs train guys for months to lap barrels and they do it 8 hrs a day, and then they have you cut off the first 1" of the blank. How in the world does someone think a gunsmith who might lap a barrel once a month is going to lap without messing it up. Plus no way to measure what he has done 99.9% of the time either. </p><p></p><p>I am sure some smith who claims they can do it will pipe in as great money maker but tell us how you "measure" (or just eyeball) up to the quality of the barrel mftrs and how you learned to short cut what the barrel mftrs cannot do. </p><p></p><p>If you are having to spend $2000 for a gunsmith to machine parts AFTER you buy all the parts, you either bought the wrong parts or you have the wrong smith.</p><p></p><p>Chambering- $400 no more from the most expensive top BR smiths. Norm is closer to $200-300</p><p></p><p>Bedding- $350 tops Norm is $200-250</p><p></p><p>Muzzle threading- $100-150</p><p></p><p>Side flush cups mounted-$50-75</p><p></p><p>Tuning custom trigger - Max $75 Yes, even Jewels are tuned (I can feel creep in 2 oz jewel until tuned). Only one not is Bix'n Andy, which is absolute best but $400</p><p></p><p>Truing/timing custom action -$250 Only one that meets top LR BR standards without it is the Borden by most counts. Most others are good to go for normal LR work.</p><p></p><p>Now all of that is worst case by best smiths around. </p><p></p><p>Everything else should be good to go IF you bought right parts.</p><p></p><p>There are too **** many marketing hype smiths charging big money for guns based soley on names. It is amazing to watch people spend $5-10K on a rifle only that is only $2500 worth of parts tops and $1000 normal labor.</p><p></p><p>Now that excludes the true artisan smiths that are building show piece guns(artisan guns) as this is a LR hunting site. ie, high end wood blanks, checkered, engraving, special finish, special contour barrels, lightening cuts,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BountyHunter, post: 1478518, member: 12"] This is interesting thread and shows the wishfull thinking in some areas such as a local smith being able to lap a barrel. NOT no but hell no. The barrel mftrs train guys for months to lap barrels and they do it 8 hrs a day, and then they have you cut off the first 1" of the blank. How in the world does someone think a gunsmith who might lap a barrel once a month is going to lap without messing it up. Plus no way to measure what he has done 99.9% of the time either. I am sure some smith who claims they can do it will pipe in as great money maker but tell us how you "measure" (or just eyeball) up to the quality of the barrel mftrs and how you learned to short cut what the barrel mftrs cannot do. If you are having to spend $2000 for a gunsmith to machine parts AFTER you buy all the parts, you either bought the wrong parts or you have the wrong smith. Chambering- $400 no more from the most expensive top BR smiths. Norm is closer to $200-300 Bedding- $350 tops Norm is $200-250 Muzzle threading- $100-150 Side flush cups mounted-$50-75 Tuning custom trigger - Max $75 Yes, even Jewels are tuned (I can feel creep in 2 oz jewel until tuned). Only one not is Bix'n Andy, which is absolute best but $400 Truing/timing custom action -$250 Only one that meets top LR BR standards without it is the Borden by most counts. Most others are good to go for normal LR work. Now all of that is worst case by best smiths around. Everything else should be good to go IF you bought right parts. There are too **** many marketing hype smiths charging big money for guns based soley on names. It is amazing to watch people spend $5-10K on a rifle only that is only $2500 worth of parts tops and $1000 normal labor. Now that excludes the true artisan smiths that are building show piece guns(artisan guns) as this is a LR hunting site. ie, high end wood blanks, checkered, engraving, special finish, special contour barrels, lightening cuts, [/QUOTE]
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