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True MACHINIST gunsmiths? (a rare breed)
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<blockquote data-quote="Longbarrel 1890 WRF" data-source="post: 1478171" data-attributes="member: 105897"><p>[ATTACH=full]104940[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]104941[/ATTACH] Litehiker said it best:</p><p>"A good gunsmith will also tell his clients when he cannot do a certain operation on a firearm either because he does not have the skill or the tools, then refer the client to one who can help them." This tale is about a rem 700 LA - Kreiger barrel - jewel trigger - apa little bastered brake in a McMillan ptg stock. I will just say that I indicated to my smith that I was loading Lapua brass and Berger 140 hybrid bullets. He suggested Winchester 284 brass reformed. But I already had a 300 count of Lapua brass. After receiving my knew 6.5x284 build back from the Smith it would not chamber at 3.000 oal. I thought about seating the bullets until they chambered, but these were details we had already discussed.</p><p>After building it for 16 weeks I said Wow! I called him and he said bring it back. 18 weeks later I get a call and he said here is your rifles favorite load. (Please see data and target above)He said that he didn't touch the rifle he just gave to a bench rest shooter in southern Utah, these are the results. Come on up and get it, you ready to go.</p><p>When I arrived at his shop I asked if both brass types functioned? O yea both work great. Do you the Lapua I left? I asked. Or any of of the 284 win so I can cycle it through? Some were in here here I'll send it to you he said. </p><p>When I got home I quickly opened a box of rounds seated them to the depth shown on the load card. When bolt closed I was a happy shooter. When I pulled the bolt and the round was stilled chambered, a very expensive inoperable rifle almost went through the wall!</p><p>We as non gunsmiths customers can really be taken for a lot of time and funding. It would be nice if all of us would just admit that there are things we can do and have tools for the job and things we can't do and do not have tools for. After talking to ptg, they indicated that my smith does not have the proper reamer for Lapua brass. That would have been nice to know. I have been charged twice for a rifle that does not function unless I learn to reform 284 win brass. Also purchased the tooling to do that. Far out!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Longbarrel 1890 WRF, post: 1478171, member: 105897"] [ATTACH=full]104940[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]104941[/ATTACH] Litehiker said it best: “A good gunsmith will also tell his clients when he cannot do a certain operation on a firearm either because he does not have the skill or the tools, then refer the client to one who can help them.” This tale is about a rem 700 LA - Kreiger barrel - jewel trigger - apa little bastered brake in a McMillan ptg stock. I will just say that I indicated to my smith that I was loading Lapua brass and Berger 140 hybrid bullets. He suggested Winchester 284 brass reformed. But I already had a 300 count of Lapua brass. After receiving my knew 6.5x284 build back from the Smith it would not chamber at 3.000 oal. I thought about seating the bullets until they chambered, but these were details we had already discussed. After building it for 16 weeks I said Wow! I called him and he said bring it back. 18 weeks later I get a call and he said here is your rifles favorite load. (Please see data and target above)He said that he didn’t touch the rifle he just gave to a bench rest shooter in southern Utah, these are the results. Come on up and get it, you ready to go. When I arrived at his shop I asked if both brass types functioned? O yea both work great. Do you the Lapua I left? I asked. Or any of of the 284 win so I can cycle it through? Some were in here here I’ll send it to you he said. When I got home I quickly opened a box of rounds seated them to the depth shown on the load card. When bolt closed I was a happy shooter. When I pulled the bolt and the round was stilled chambered, a very expensive inoperable rifle almost went through the wall! We as non gunsmiths customers can really be taken for a lot of time and funding. It would be nice if all of us would just admit that there are things we can do and have tools for the job and things we can’t do and do not have tools for. After talking to ptg, they indicated that my smith does not have the proper reamer for Lapua brass. That would have been nice to know. I have been charged twice for a rifle that does not function unless I learn to reform 284 win brass. Also purchased the tooling to do that. Far out!! [/QUOTE]
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