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<blockquote data-quote="Mike6158" data-source="post: 3057490" data-attributes="member: 1039"><p><edit> Good lord I do ramble on...</p><p></p><p>Kind of related but not really until you get to the bottom. I've been testing a Barnes .338 Lapua 280gr LRX BT in <drum roll please> the much maligned, hated, loved, sometimes hated and loved at the same time... 8.6BLK. Not SAMMI approved. About as wildcat as you can get with it's 3 twist barrels. I have two of the early Faxon barrels, This isn't a barrel discussion so I won't talk about how much I despise those barrels <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> That's kind of like not saying I don't like them right? Kudos to them for one thing, they were the only people making them at one time.</p><p></p><p>I can get it to shoot subs and have hunting accuracy at 100 yards easily. The quest for accuracy with supers at 300 has been an exercise in sneaking up on the desired velocity without serious over pressure signs. Desired velocity <s>is</s> was 2,200 fps and I can get there easily enough. I was trying to stretch to 2,800 fps and it's not going to happen in a 16" pencil barrel without "sploding" something. Due, in part, to the inadequacies of the barrel I've shelved this part of the testing at this point. I may buy an aftermarket heavy barrel and test more. Idk right now.</p><p></p><p><strong>Back on point</strong>: The most important statistic that I need to know before I use this bullet in a subsonic, relatively close range, situation is: <how about another one of those drum rolls. The first one sounded real nice> </p><p></p><p><strong><u>Terminal Ballistics</u></strong>. What is the bullet going to do when it enters a pig (test subject) at 1,077-1,020 fps, spinning like a ? Idk... what else spins at 500,000 rpm? There's only one way (for me) to find out. Choot'em.</p><p></p><p>Quick stats on the 8.6BLK 280gr subs. </p><p>1,100 fps muzzle velocity goal. Easily doable.</p><p>50 yards: 1,077fps, 722fpe</p><p>100 yards: 1,057fps, 694fpe</p><p>150 yards: 1,037 fps, 669fpe</p><p>200 yards: 1,020fps, 647fpe</p><p> </p><p>Hornady is supposed to be working on another one of those "cutting edge" ARC bullets in 8.6 with a 6 to 6.5 twist. That one will have a better chance of SAMMI approving it and bullet selection will be easier. With the 3 twist you need to use bonded or solid copper to avoid a "RUD" event. <-- rocketry term... <strong>R</strong>apid <strong>U</strong>nscheduled <strong>D</strong>isassembly of the projectile. </p><p></p><p>Why dck with a wildcat like the 8.6? Not because it's easy. Reminds me of a long ago speech that I'm not going to post...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike6158, post: 3057490, member: 1039"] <edit> Good lord I do ramble on... Kind of related but not really until you get to the bottom. I've been testing a Barnes .338 Lapua 280gr LRX BT in <drum roll please> the much maligned, hated, loved, sometimes hated and loved at the same time... 8.6BLK. Not SAMMI approved. About as wildcat as you can get with it's 3 twist barrels. I have two of the early Faxon barrels, This isn't a barrel discussion so I won't talk about how much I despise those barrels :) That's kind of like not saying I don't like them right? Kudos to them for one thing, they were the only people making them at one time. I can get it to shoot subs and have hunting accuracy at 100 yards easily. The quest for accuracy with supers at 300 has been an exercise in sneaking up on the desired velocity without serious over pressure signs. Desired velocity [S]is[/S] was 2,200 fps and I can get there easily enough. I was trying to stretch to 2,800 fps and it's not going to happen in a 16" pencil barrel without "sploding" something. Due, in part, to the inadequacies of the barrel I've shelved this part of the testing at this point. I may buy an aftermarket heavy barrel and test more. Idk right now. [B]Back on point[/B]: The most important statistic that I need to know before I use this bullet in a subsonic, relatively close range, situation is: <how about another one of those drum rolls. The first one sounded real nice> [B][U]Terminal Ballistics[/U][/B]. What is the bullet going to do when it enters a pig (test subject) at 1,077-1,020 fps, spinning like a ? Idk... what else spins at 500,000 rpm? There's only one way (for me) to find out. Choot'em. Quick stats on the 8.6BLK 280gr subs. 1,100 fps muzzle velocity goal. Easily doable. 50 yards: 1,077fps, 722fpe 100 yards: 1,057fps, 694fpe 150 yards: 1,037 fps, 669fpe 200 yards: 1,020fps, 647fpe Hornady is supposed to be working on another one of those "cutting edge" ARC bullets in 8.6 with a 6 to 6.5 twist. That one will have a better chance of SAMMI approving it and bullet selection will be easier. With the 3 twist you need to use bonded or solid copper to avoid a "RUD" event. <-- rocketry term... [B]R[/B]apid [B]U[/B]nscheduled [B]D[/B]isassembly of the projectile. Why dck with a wildcat like the 8.6? Not because it's easy. Reminds me of a long ago speech that I'm not going to post... [/QUOTE]
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