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<blockquote data-quote="Konrad" data-source="post: 495738" data-attributes="member: 26549"><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Hello Folks,</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Here is something else to throw into the mix. The following is the reply I received today from Alaskan Bowhunting, the purveyors of the GrizzlyStik arrows and shafts. They offer only two spines and all will note they will accept NO responsibility for anything regarding damage, injury or loss from experimentation with their shafts in this application.</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I could not help myself. I just had to ask them.</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Jon,</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Getting actual measurements from the I.D. of the shafts is the only sure way to get accurate sizing for the Super Uni-Bushing. I was under the impression that the O.D. was 11/32's of an inch.</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Konrad,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Thanks for your email. You're on the right track.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">We do have crossbow shooters using our arrows, but they're adventurous and making them work by cutting from the nock end of our tapered GrizzlyStiks. Conventional bow shooters can't do that because our nocks will not fit if the arrows are cut on the nock end. Crossbow shooters, however, use different "nocks" on their bolts and so for them this works out. As you cut from our nock end, the stiffness goes up dramatically. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">We have not done any testing in this area yet, but are considering it.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">In the mean time, you'd have to simply buy a pack, try them, and see what happens.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Some CYA from ABS…</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Of course we can't be responsible for anyone using our arrows in a manner that they were not designed for.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">I hope that helps.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">todd</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">From:</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> Ginny Schlief [mailto:customerservice@alaskabowhunting.com] </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><strong>Sent:</strong> </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Saturday, April 02, 2011</span> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">2:08 AM</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><strong>To:</strong> todd smith</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><strong>Subject:</strong> FW: SPAM-MED: shaft application</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Can you respond to this guy?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">------ Forwarded Message </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><strong>Date: </strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Fri, 1 Apr 2011</span> <span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">16:57:37</span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"> -0700</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><strong>To: </strong>Ginny Schlief <<a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/customerservice@alaskabowhunting.com" target="_blank">customerservice@alaskabowhunting.com</a>></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><strong>Subject: </strong>SPAM-MED: shaft application</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Hello, </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">I have been involved in a discussion regarding ammunition quality issues and the TAC 15 crossbow. It occurred to me that your heavy, tapered carbon shafts may be suitable for this high performance application.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Has anyone approached you folks along these lines?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">This device has a relatively long power stroke and 155 pound draw weight limbs with compound cams. Currently, the only available ammunition "approved" by PSE is their own TAC shafts and no one is happy with their over-all performance. The maximum broadhead weight that can be used with accuracy is only 85 grains. I suspect this is due to flimsy spining of the TAC shaft material (carbon composite).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Please, don't worry; I'm not as crazy as I sound. I'm just asking.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Thanks, </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Konrad </span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Lau</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Sedro-Woolley</span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">, </span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">WA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">------</span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"> End of Forwarded Message</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">No virus found in this incoming message.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com" target="_blank">AVG Antivrus e Software de Segurana - Proteo em tempo real contra vrus, spyware e sites maliciosos</a></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3548 - Release Date: </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">04/03/11</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> 17:40:00</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Konrad, post: 495738, member: 26549"] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Hello Folks,[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Here is something else to throw into the mix. The following is the reply I received today from Alaskan Bowhunting, the purveyors of the GrizzlyStik arrows and shafts. They offer only two spines and all will note they will accept NO responsibility for anything regarding damage, injury or loss from experimentation with their shafts in this application.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]I could not help myself. I just had to ask them.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Jon,[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Getting actual measurements from the I.D. of the shafts is the only sure way to get accurate sizing for the Super Uni-Bushing. I was under the impression that the O.D. was 11/32’s of an inch.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]Konrad,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]Thanks for your email. You’re on the right track.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]We do have crossbow shooters using our arrows, but they’re adventurous and making them work by cutting from the nock end of our tapered GrizzlyStiks. Conventional bow shooters can’t do that because our nocks will not fit if the arrows are cut on the nock end. Crossbow shooters, however, use different “nocks” on their bolts and so for them this works out. As you cut from our nock end, the stiffness goes up dramatically. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]We have not done any testing in this area yet, but are considering it.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]In the mean time, you’d have to simply buy a pack, try them, and see what happens.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]Some CYA from ABS…[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]Of course we can’t be responsible for anyone using our arrows in a manner that they were not designed for.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]I hope that helps.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]todd[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Tahoma]From:[/FONT][/B][FONT=Tahoma] Ginny Schlief [mailto:customerservice@alaskabowhunting.com] [B]Sent:[/B] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Saturday, April 02, 2011[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]2:08 AM[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma] [B]To:[/B] todd smith [B]Subject:[/B] FW: SPAM-MED: shaft application[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]Can you respond to this guy? ------ Forwarded Message [B]Date: [/B][/FONT][FONT=Calibri]Fri, 1 Apr 2011[/FONT][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]16:57:37[/FONT][FONT=Calibri] -0700 [B]To: [/B]Ginny Schlief <[URL="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/customerservice@alaskabowhunting.com"]customerservice@alaskabowhunting.com[/URL]> [B]Subject: [/B]SPAM-MED: shaft application [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]Hello, [/FONT][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]I have been involved in a discussion regarding ammunition quality issues and the TAC 15 crossbow. It occurred to me that your heavy, tapered carbon shafts may be suitable for this high performance application. [/FONT][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]Has anyone approached you folks along these lines? [/FONT][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]This device has a relatively long power stroke and 155 pound draw weight limbs with compound cams. Currently, the only available ammunition "approved" by PSE is their own TAC shafts and no one is happy with their over-all performance. The maximum broadhead weight that can be used with accuracy is only 85 grains. I suspect this is due to flimsy spining of the TAC shaft material (carbon composite). [/FONT][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]Please, don't worry; I'm not as crazy as I sound. I'm just asking. [/FONT][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]Thanks, Konrad [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]Lau Sedro-Woolley[/FONT][FONT=Calibri], [/FONT][FONT=Calibri]WA [/FONT][FONT=Calibri] ------[/FONT][FONT=Calibri] End of Forwarded Message[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - [url=http://www.avg.com]AVG Antivrus e Software de Segurana - Proteo em tempo real contra vrus, spyware e sites maliciosos[/url] Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3548 - Release Date: [/FONT][FONT=Arial]04/03/11[/FONT][FONT=Arial] 17:40:00[/FONT][FONT=Calibri][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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