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T/c encore breech plug modification
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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 1785919" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p>You didn't follow correctly and that's ok. You may have been confused with the vari-flam post?</p><p></p><p>I would not put the <u>vari-flame system</u> in the worst rifle I've ever owned..... That statement was directed towards the vari-flame system... <u><strong>not the Encore</strong></u>.</p><p></p><p>As for your T7 pellets...…… you have to swab between shots. T7 is known to leave what's called a "crud ring" in the barrel from ignition. Most all of that has to do with the properties of T7 itself. Its the exact reason why loading for a 2nd shot is hard.</p><p>T7 isn't a bad propellant, but swabbing between shots is generally a must. IMO the best product to swab T7, and clean it, is <strong>Butch's Black Powder Bore Shine</strong>. For swabbing between shots, you want an ever so slightly damp patch. Cleaning you can use a wet patch. For swabbing, run a damp patch up and down until you reach the breech plug. Pull the patch, turn it over and repeat.</p><p>I've shot many CASES of T7 pellets through an UF BP Xpress and Butch's works.</p><p></p><p>As for the Encore...…… for a tip open rifle, it would be my only choice. I've owned many of them along with Pro Hunters. Never an FX model though. Every Encore or Pro Hunter I've owned was a .5moa rifle at 200yds..... on my good days.</p><p>The Encore rifle is IMO the easiest of the tip open rifles to modify and for very reasonable costs. And it can make a significant difference with the available modifications.</p><p>Trigger springs can be changed to lighten the trigger pull. Also the addition of HD spring sets for the locking bolt, firing pin, hinge pins and hammer springs. Head space can be improved with shims behind the breech. These modifications when complete can make a rifle feel like a completely different rifle, and yes, it can help with accuracy.</p><p><a href="https://www.bellmtcs.com/" target="_blank">https://www.bellmtcs.com/</a></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately...... manufacturers have problems with getting it right with leaking breech plugs and primer pockets. I really don't know of one that has the perfect production rifle setup. Shooters are trying to correct the manufacturer's problems with shims, "O" rings, vent liners and you name it.</p><p>Take even a semi-custom build like the Ultimate Firearms BP Xpress and its little brother the Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader (RUM). The UF at least uses better primer carrier brass at least, whereas Remington uses a much less quality brass case, which can vary up to .020" in case head thickness. Its almost impossible to get a perfect seal of the brass case to the nipple when the case head thickness is that far off.</p><p>So yes, I'd say all the manufacturers have at least some problem with their ignition systems in one way or another.</p><p></p><p>As more or less pointed out by Wolf76, most muzzleloader shooters are what I like to refer as "extended season hunters". <u>No disrespect intended to any.</u> In most cases the owners just deal with the cards they've been delt, others will look for information on better charges and/or sabot and bullet combinations and be satisfied.</p><p>Those who utilize their muzzleloaders more often, if they'd like, can make significent changes to their rifles to better them and eliminate all blow back and leaks. That's where costs increase when you change the OEM systems to a quality system that works and lasts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 1785919, member: 33046"] You didn't follow correctly and that's ok. You may have been confused with the vari-flam post? I would not put the [U]vari-flame system[/U] in the worst rifle I've ever owned..... That statement was directed towards the vari-flame system... [U][B]not the Encore[/B][/U]. As for your T7 pellets...…… you have to swab between shots. T7 is known to leave what's called a "crud ring" in the barrel from ignition. Most all of that has to do with the properties of T7 itself. Its the exact reason why loading for a 2nd shot is hard. T7 isn't a bad propellant, but swabbing between shots is generally a must. IMO the best product to swab T7, and clean it, is [B]Butch's Black Powder Bore Shine[/B]. For swabbing between shots, you want an ever so slightly damp patch. Cleaning you can use a wet patch. For swabbing, run a damp patch up and down until you reach the breech plug. Pull the patch, turn it over and repeat. I've shot many CASES of T7 pellets through an UF BP Xpress and Butch's works. As for the Encore...…… for a tip open rifle, it would be my only choice. I've owned many of them along with Pro Hunters. Never an FX model though. Every Encore or Pro Hunter I've owned was a .5moa rifle at 200yds..... on my good days. The Encore rifle is IMO the easiest of the tip open rifles to modify and for very reasonable costs. And it can make a significant difference with the available modifications. Trigger springs can be changed to lighten the trigger pull. Also the addition of HD spring sets for the locking bolt, firing pin, hinge pins and hammer springs. Head space can be improved with shims behind the breech. These modifications when complete can make a rifle feel like a completely different rifle, and yes, it can help with accuracy. [URL]https://www.bellmtcs.com/[/URL] Unfortunately...... manufacturers have problems with getting it right with leaking breech plugs and primer pockets. I really don't know of one that has the perfect production rifle setup. Shooters are trying to correct the manufacturer's problems with shims, "O" rings, vent liners and you name it. Take even a semi-custom build like the Ultimate Firearms BP Xpress and its little brother the Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader (RUM). The UF at least uses better primer carrier brass at least, whereas Remington uses a much less quality brass case, which can vary up to .020" in case head thickness. Its almost impossible to get a perfect seal of the brass case to the nipple when the case head thickness is that far off. So yes, I'd say all the manufacturers have at least some problem with their ignition systems in one way or another. As more or less pointed out by Wolf76, most muzzleloader shooters are what I like to refer as "extended season hunters". [U]No disrespect intended to any.[/U] In most cases the owners just deal with the cards they've been delt, others will look for information on better charges and/or sabot and bullet combinations and be satisfied. Those who utilize their muzzleloaders more often, if they'd like, can make significent changes to their rifles to better them and eliminate all blow back and leaks. That's where costs increase when you change the OEM systems to a quality system that works and lasts. [/QUOTE]
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