Deputy819
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FireFlyFishing
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I believe ATF agents are only allowed to asked for the stamp. That's it.
cohunt
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www.nationalguntrusts.com/blogs/nfa-gun-trust-atf-information-database-blog/age-requirements-for-silencers-and-suppressors
From that I would extrapolate that you must be at least 18 to possess it when no one else is around--, and if he isn't on the trust yet he can't have it when he is alone either
You can't loan a suppressor, or machine gun, or sbr, or sbs to "just anybody"-- you either must be with them, or they must be on the trust hence the reason for trust/corporation tax stamps
From that I would extrapolate that you must be at least 18 to possess it when no one else is around--, and if he isn't on the trust yet he can't have it when he is alone either
You can't loan a suppressor, or machine gun, or sbr, or sbs to "just anybody"-- you either must be with them, or they must be on the trust hence the reason for trust/corporation tax stamps
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akmtnhnt
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Luckily we don't live in east Germany and papers please get a laugh. Police cannot just ask you for paperwork on something that is perfectly legal to own. They'd need probable cause that you cannot own it. Further, that's tax documents. Not a permit.
FireFlyFishing
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That's my understanding as well. Andā¦only ATF agents can ask for the verification of the tax stamp.
dfanonymous
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The nativity.
Given the manpower, or lack there of, if you're being asked for a tax stamp then you're being investigated. Hide your dog.
The standard of probable cause to be met is basically nothing for a collage drop out with a double digit IQ.
Having a Christmas tree scent dangling off your rear view mirror can be "probable cause." Your liberal neighbor calling you a gun nut klansman is probable cause.
While AK might treat their citizens like people, there's 12 states that CAN "check your papers."
It's commonly referred to "stop and identify."
If the federal government decides you're an enemy, it will not be a fair fight. If you don't have an army of lawyers behind you, and resources ($) good luck.
A judge isn't going to reject the affidavit for a warrant because the "probable cause" was actually reasonable suspicion. It happens all the time. Especially if you're not a big shot CEO or high profile person of some type.
Given the manpower, or lack there of, if you're being asked for a tax stamp then you're being investigated. Hide your dog.
The standard of probable cause to be met is basically nothing for a collage drop out with a double digit IQ.
Having a Christmas tree scent dangling off your rear view mirror can be "probable cause." Your liberal neighbor calling you a gun nut klansman is probable cause.
While AK might treat their citizens like people, there's 12 states that CAN "check your papers."
It's commonly referred to "stop and identify."
If the federal government decides you're an enemy, it will not be a fair fight. If you don't have an army of lawyers behind you, and resources ($) good luck.
A judge isn't going to reject the affidavit for a warrant because the "probable cause" was actually reasonable suspicion. It happens all the time. Especially if you're not a big shot CEO or high profile person of some type.
I carry the stamp in the gun case and have a photo on my phone. I would not feel comfortable allowing my child to hunt with a suppressor, if I was not with them. I have met many outstanding LEO's and game wardens, but I have also ran across a few that I would not want to chance them being understanding or tolerant of grey area situations.
hydehunter
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and Treasury agents
