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Shoulder mounted "recoil pad" Can the ATF regulate non-firearm mounted accessories?
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<blockquote data-quote="cohunt" data-source="post: 2720636" data-attributes="member: 94491"><p>Technically- no they can't regulate it--- doesn't mean they wouldn't try.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately it still comes down to "intent" --- this has always been a gray area of the law, how does the atf know what a person's intent is? How can it be proved?</p><p></p><p>Ultimately your device is intended to skirt the sbr/buttstock/pistol brace laws- no doubt in my mind or anyone else's. As stupid as it seems If you shoulder a pistol you have created an sbr (especially if you are using a device to do it with- thats why the whole pistol brace fiasco is happening)</p><p></p><p>it is a novel idea, I'm sure people would buy it--- but it has only 1 intent. It is not made for shouldering a rifle--- because the definition of a rifle includes a buttstock- so if you are using it for shouldering a rifle with no buttstock -- is it a rifle anymore? Or have you now created an "AOW" by definition of the nfa/atf? (These require tegistration/tax stamps under the nfa too)</p><p>Will you sell "extended length buffer tubes" also?</p><p></p><p>Also if your "intent" is to use it as a rifle butttock- then now it is classified as a buttstock even if it doesn't look like a conventional one.</p><p></p><p>The problem isn't with your "invention" nore is it with the many pistol braces-- it's with all the youtube videos of people shouldering their pistols using these devices.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cohunt, post: 2720636, member: 94491"] Technically- no they can't regulate it--- doesn't mean they wouldn't try. Ultimately it still comes down to "intent" --- this has always been a gray area of the law, how does the atf know what a person's intent is? How can it be proved? Ultimately your device is intended to skirt the sbr/buttstock/pistol brace laws- no doubt in my mind or anyone else's. As stupid as it seems If you shoulder a pistol you have created an sbr (especially if you are using a device to do it with- thats why the whole pistol brace fiasco is happening) it is a novel idea, I'm sure people would buy it--- but it has only 1 intent. It is not made for shouldering a rifle--- because the definition of a rifle includes a buttstock- so if you are using it for shouldering a rifle with no buttstock -- is it a rifle anymore? Or have you now created an "AOW" by definition of the nfa/atf? (These require tegistration/tax stamps under the nfa too) Will you sell "extended length buffer tubes" also? Also if your "intent" is to use it as a rifle butttock- then now it is classified as a buttstock even if it doesn't look like a conventional one. The problem isn't with your "invention" nore is it with the many pistol braces-- it's with all the youtube videos of people shouldering their pistols using these devices. [/QUOTE]
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