Once again, I find a forum late. Since these comments were written in 2007, and this is March of 2013, these comments are a little late. But for those who read these comments and mine, it might be helpful. I have been using Shepherd scopes and Leupold scopes, and Burris scopes and Pentax scopes for quite a while, now. Weaver scopes have made their way onto a few firearms of mine over the years, too. The optics and the adjustments of the Shepherd scopes have been just as good as the same generation Leupold scopes. I have Shepherds I have bought in '86, '96, 2005 and this last year. I own 5 of them, now. My first was a 3X10 Shootist. It was bought in Hawaii. I had it refurbished by Shepherd Inc. in 2010. Dan completely rebuilt it. It still passes over 96% of the light that hits the front lens to the eye. It cost me $15.oo shipping and handling. I have never had a Shepherd fail on me. I have killed deer with one on a 30-06 and on a 35 Whelen out to 500 yds. I have shot popup targets to 700 meters in high winds (20mph+) and they work just as advertised. But don't take my word for it. In one of your own forums, Mr. McMillan of McMillan Rifle Stocks talks about the Shepherd. One thing, though. Shepherd produces HUNTING scopes. They're not benchrest scopes or target scopes, though they will fit that bill. But they're one of the best ranging Hunting scopes on the market.