Rem 700 in 338 Laupua
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SavageShtr
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Do yourself a favor and just buy the Savage 110BA in 338LM, it will probably shoot circles around the remington and you whont have to do anything to it. that would be my choice if I were to by a factory 338LM. Savage rifles are known for there accuracy out of the box, and this one looks good too. Just my two cents.
royinidaho
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Go here and study a bit then decide. Plus I'd wait for the follow up. http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/savage-110-ba-300-win-mag-review-59584/
Yeah, nice gun
I'm a huge savage fan, my 7mm Rem mag can cloverleaf at 200 yards. But the one you showed is too heavy to hunt with.
A dealer just dropped the price buy $200 but I don't know enough about Remington
Thanks for the reply
royinidaho
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Nah, not too heavy to hunt with......depends on what one calls hunting. A short 30 min. walk to a hide one can carry about anything.
Don't know enough about Remington? - Factory tooling, Factory specs, Factory workers.
Savage - Factory specs, Factory tooling, Factory workers.
One has their innovations and the other has theirs. Both are build in their different configurations to market to the masses.
If one wants to be certain, steps must be taken to improve the odds of getting a rifle that really shoots. A factory gun may be made to shoot as good as a factory gun can shoot. To guarantee that clover leaf @ 200 yards every time will take a bit more that the lucky purchase, some tuning and a good session at the bench.
What I'm hinting is that custom w/guaranteed accuracy spec is pretty good insurance.
midwesthunter
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Go with the savage. I know they had some barrel probe with some of the remingtons. Not sure which year
liltank
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This should be considered in my opinion and build off of this. Order your self a custom barrel from Lothar Walther for around $350 in a 1:10 twist 28" to 30" and screw it on your self. The Savage sight has a video guide to show you how to do it. Pretty much chamber a non-fired casing and screw the barrel in until it stops. Tighten the barrel nut and your head spacing is set. To make sure, put two pieces of scotch tape on the head of the casing. Try closing the bolt. If it doesn't close, head spacing is correct, if it does close, repeat step one. You can order a bolt head for 338 Lapua. I know my cousin has a magnum bolt head opened up to fit the Lapua due to ejector position. Sharp shooter supply also has brux and douglas barrels pre cut to fit Savage actions. On a side note, if you want to single feed, the single shot Savage Target action will work just fine. You can eject empty casings, and you will have to pull the bolt to pull a loaded round. Not much of an issue if you are setting in a hide or hill top somewhere.
18538 Magnum Bolt Head,300 WM Box and Follower
Right-bolt, right-port Carbon Steel Long Hinged floorplate Standard AccuTrigger $495.00
Another option would be the Howa Magnum action. This might be big enough of a bolt face with a little help from a smith. Tune the action and trigger and screw on a custom barrel, and you are in a very tight set up.
.375 Ruger HWB23915+ 3+1 in chamber 20 #4 27.75" 5.35 lbs Long .620" 1-12" twist $515.00
Most stock makers have models that will fit these actions. You could build either one of these rifles for under $1500 (no scope, rings, or base).
As far as the 110BA, Rifle Shooter Magazine did a review with a very different opinion of the rifle. They compared it to a 98 BRAVO Barrett (both rifles in 338 Lapua). It was the preffered rifle over the Barrett due to price. There was the complaint about the Mags, but they are AI mags in the Savage. Using different ammo (federal, black hills, Cor-Bon) they both shot sub- MOA to 1000yrds. They said the break was very effective, but very loud abusing anybody standing behind or beside the Savage.
Tank
18538 Magnum Bolt Head,300 WM Box and Follower
Right-bolt, right-port Carbon Steel Long Hinged floorplate Standard AccuTrigger $495.00
Another option would be the Howa Magnum action. This might be big enough of a bolt face with a little help from a smith. Tune the action and trigger and screw on a custom barrel, and you are in a very tight set up.
.375 Ruger HWB23915+ 3+1 in chamber 20 #4 27.75" 5.35 lbs Long .620" 1-12" twist $515.00
Most stock makers have models that will fit these actions. You could build either one of these rifles for under $1500 (no scope, rings, or base).
As far as the 110BA, Rifle Shooter Magazine did a review with a very different opinion of the rifle. They compared it to a 98 BRAVO Barrett (both rifles in 338 Lapua). It was the preffered rifle over the Barrett due to price. There was the complaint about the Mags, but they are AI mags in the Savage. Using different ammo (federal, black hills, Cor-Bon) they both shot sub- MOA to 1000yrds. They said the break was very effective, but very loud abusing anybody standing behind or beside the Savage.
Tank
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royinidaho
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liltank,
That's the best advice yet! But does Sharp Shooters have barrels chambered for cartridges larger than 30 cal?
That's the best advice yet! But does Sharp Shooters have barrels chambered for cartridges larger than 30 cal?
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bigngreen
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If I were buying a 338 LM I would go with the Savage BA, it is designed for the round not just a regular long action but more of a Target version of the long action. The Rem is just a regular M700 dropped into a stock. The Savage is designed around the 338LM.
As for weight it's a 338 magnum rifle you may like the weight, but in looking one over you can pull of that massive rail system and shave of a lot of weigh, just put a regular 20MOA rail on it. I was guessing a couple pounds could be unloaded of the Savage.
I've heard that the Savage BA is scary accurate with hand loads and MOA with decent factory loads, just heard this through the grape vine.
If I were building one on an action I would go Custom actions for the 338LM or 338 RUM in a regular long action, both get the same thing done with less hassle with the RUM.
As for weight it's a 338 magnum rifle you may like the weight, but in looking one over you can pull of that massive rail system and shave of a lot of weigh, just put a regular 20MOA rail on it. I was guessing a couple pounds could be unloaded of the Savage.
I've heard that the Savage BA is scary accurate with hand loads and MOA with decent factory loads, just heard this through the grape vine.
If I were building one on an action I would go Custom actions for the 338LM or 338 RUM in a regular long action, both get the same thing done with less hassle with the RUM.
liltank
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Looking at the sight, maybe not. If interested, probably wouldn't hurt to call to see if they can get barrels in 338. But that doesn't mean one could call the barrel maker and get it taken care of from the manufacturer. I know a guy that runs nothing but Lothar Walther barrels and has had good luck with them.
My cousin has a 338 Lapua using a 1:10 Douglas at 32". The thing shoots. There is no getting around that. It is mounted in a Target action Savage with LH port, RH bolt. It is set in a Choate Super Sniper Stock. His only complaint is with that much weight over the fore end of the stock, it is a little flimsy. This leads me to believe that a stouter stock would be needed if you are going to run a heavy long barrel with your rifle (B&C, McMillian, Manners, something of that nature). The barrel is mounted in the action w/o a barrel block. It is stout enough to handle that weight barrel w/o the additional support needed.
Tank
There are guys that have built 338 LM on Savage long actions. I went with the 338 RUM on my Savage build just for peace of mind and the components are cheaper and the RUM achieves almost identical performance to the Lapua. For out of the box accuracy I would take the Savage over the Rem because the Savage design allows a factory worker to turn out a more accurate rifle than the Rem design.
If you start with a 7mm mag Savage action the only thing you would need to change is the barrel (for a RUM build)
If you start with a 7mm mag Savage action the only thing you would need to change is the barrel (for a RUM build)
liltank
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Well, my cousin has about 1000rnds in his target short action and have had no problems thus far. I would have to say it is safe. I would assume a smith wouldn't build anything knowing it was unsafe. I would say that it is safe and very usable. The long action is only going to help with feeding if you can get them in the internal mag.
Tank
