So , 2 shot velocity ladder, 3137 and 3142 with 77.5 gr n570 @ 3.621 coal out of 26" vanguard 61 degrees at about 600-700 elevation western Washington. Think Berger said this was 95% fill which felt about right by shake lol. They said they only got 3060 with same charge. Slight crater and flattened primer. They also said this was they're fastest combo. I was surprised by low velocity with 869. Pretty sure I tried lrt as well with not any better results. My velocities never seem to match internet speeds though so maybe it's my elevation and area. Might be a while before I get a chance to tune and shoot distance. Having a heat wave here. Hope this helps