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<blockquote data-quote="Topgun 30-06" data-source="post: 453099" data-attributes="member: 28854"><p>I hate to rain on your parade, but here is my honest opinion of your tentative plans. First, let me start off by saying that I live in MI, but have spent a tremendous amount of time out in Wyoming since 1994. Most of it has been less than 20 miles northwest of area 21 that you are talking about. In fact, I was down the Hazelton Road last September along the west side of unit 21 on a quad with a friend who lives out there and we were just out breaking up a hot day (temperature-wise) of elk bowhunting. Even though that is considered a main road and is the only access on the west side of unit 21, it is more of a road for easy quad use unless you have a good pickup with 10 ply tires. Any tires with less than 6 ply on any of the Wyoming backcountry roads is asking for trouble. Ten ply is best and you should have chains just in case of moisture! I just replaced my 2006 Silverado 4x4 tires while I was out there on my second trip of the Fall and spent $1,000 on what was an excellent deal for 10 ply Coopers! If you are not planning on going until the latter half of October, your chance of rain and snow increases quite a bit, so you had better pray for very little moisture because then the dirt roads are either close to or are impassable for days at a time! I'm not trying to scare you out of not going, but just warning you to BE PREPARED! The weather can change drastically out there in just a couple hours and you need to keep abreast of things so as not to get stranded out there somewhere because it's BIG country!!!</p><p>Back to the units themselves: Unit 63 had less than 5.5% success in the random nonresident draw for 2010, so I have no idea how you came up with that 33% statistic. Unit 21 is a sure lock for a tag, but that is because the western half of that unit that has most of the BLM land is more deer/elk high country than it is for antelope. It has almost no "decent" road access and the eastern half of the unit is mostly private land. The latter is where most of the antelope are taken and of course it is likely that you will pay an access fee to hunt that land just like everywhere else out there.</p><p>Personally, I would go back to the drawing board and look over the areas northeast of Casper and south of Gillette that do include the Grasslands. If you go the latter part of the season over there, you won't have that much problem with hunters as most hunt the opening few days. There is plenty of public land over there and you'll have more fun, especially if you have ladies along. The goats may be jittery, but you can do good spot and stalk hunting if you have patience and use the lay of the land to get within good shooting distance. Also, the land is not so unforgiving as the higher country where you are talking about going! Finally, you are really almost limiting yourself to where I'm suggesting if you plan to stay in a motel. Unit 21 would be impossible to "motel it" because Kaycee is the only town near it and it's way up in the northeast corner. Even over where I'm talking about will require some driving time from any towns out into the hunting areas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Topgun 30-06, post: 453099, member: 28854"] I hate to rain on your parade, but here is my honest opinion of your tentative plans. First, let me start off by saying that I live in MI, but have spent a tremendous amount of time out in Wyoming since 1994. Most of it has been less than 20 miles northwest of area 21 that you are talking about. In fact, I was down the Hazelton Road last September along the west side of unit 21 on a quad with a friend who lives out there and we were just out breaking up a hot day (temperature-wise) of elk bowhunting. Even though that is considered a main road and is the only access on the west side of unit 21, it is more of a road for easy quad use unless you have a good pickup with 10 ply tires. Any tires with less than 6 ply on any of the Wyoming backcountry roads is asking for trouble. Ten ply is best and you should have chains just in case of moisture! I just replaced my 2006 Silverado 4x4 tires while I was out there on my second trip of the Fall and spent $1,000 on what was an excellent deal for 10 ply Coopers! If you are not planning on going until the latter half of October, your chance of rain and snow increases quite a bit, so you had better pray for very little moisture because then the dirt roads are either close to or are impassable for days at a time! I'm not trying to scare you out of not going, but just warning you to BE PREPARED! The weather can change drastically out there in just a couple hours and you need to keep abreast of things so as not to get stranded out there somewhere because it's BIG country!!! Back to the units themselves: Unit 63 had less than 5.5% success in the random nonresident draw for 2010, so I have no idea how you came up with that 33% statistic. Unit 21 is a sure lock for a tag, but that is because the western half of that unit that has most of the BLM land is more deer/elk high country than it is for antelope. It has almost no "decent" road access and the eastern half of the unit is mostly private land. The latter is where most of the antelope are taken and of course it is likely that you will pay an access fee to hunt that land just like everywhere else out there. Personally, I would go back to the drawing board and look over the areas northeast of Casper and south of Gillette that do include the Grasslands. If you go the latter part of the season over there, you won't have that much problem with hunters as most hunt the opening few days. There is plenty of public land over there and you'll have more fun, especially if you have ladies along. The goats may be jittery, but you can do good spot and stalk hunting if you have patience and use the lay of the land to get within good shooting distance. Also, the land is not so unforgiving as the higher country where you are talking about going! Finally, you are really almost limiting yourself to where I'm suggesting if you plan to stay in a motel. Unit 21 would be impossible to "motel it" because Kaycee is the only town near it and it's way up in the northeast corner. Even over where I'm talking about will require some driving time from any towns out into the hunting areas. [/QUOTE]
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