They shoot the same size groups in my Edge and the same POI as the SMK. They have a slightly higher BC and expand better, so for most critters, I would rather take more damage and less windage. I am running them at 2727FPS with any where from .3 to .65 MOA. I will say that on a very large moose I am thankful the bullet hit rib bones and not shoulder bones. I feel that if the shoulder was encountered, things could have gotten UGLY. For anything smaller such as elk, I would be more enthusiastic about them. For large moose, I am anxiously awaiting the 300 grain ACCUBOND.