Used them in my friend's 300WM for Cali feral hog hunt. They weren't spectacular at MOA best. He killed the hog with a shot to the head, he was aiming at the heart/lung. It was on the move though. I tried Barnes in a couple of WBY rifles, but no-go. In defense of the E-Tip all rifles are different and some may like the E-Tip. That's the fun with reloading, you don't know till you try it. Good luck