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<blockquote data-quote="DartonJager" data-source="post: 1636202" data-attributes="member: 95733"><p>Buster, I use to do (and sadly don't that much any more) a HUGE amount of pheasant and upland game hunting. Consequently I have very, VERY large numbers of 12 gauge 2.75 and 3" upland game loads sitting in my shotgun ammo storage cabinets, many of which are now approaching 20-25 years old. One purpose I use them for is a cost saving measure to help sight in my turkey gun. Another is I have my sons shoot them for practice prior to turkey season. I don't take any special precautions in storing them other than keeping them in my basement which thanks to two dehumidifiers I keep the humidity level very low.</p><p></p><p>In the last 5 years since my sons began turkey hunting and beginning two seasons ago I scoped my turkey guns I have used up well over 100 of my upland game loads that had been sitting idle for at least 20 years and not a single problem did I encounter with a single round.</p><p></p><p>Long ago I called both Winchester and federal and asked what was the max shelf life of their loaded ammo, they both replied if stored properly it was well in excess of 20 years. called my favorite powder makers with the same question and their replay was basically the same.</p><p></p><p>If you have shotgun ammo that it is 20 or less years old and it has always been stored properly and you experience a failure to fire with it or sum other issue it IMHO it is almost certainly due to a defect when it was manufactured.</p><p></p><p>Knock on wood x1K but I have fired countless 10s of thousands of rounds in my life (100sKs if you include 22 rimfire) so far of rifle, shotgun and pistol and never had a single ammunition related issue. Now with my reloads when I first began using a progressive relaoder over 25 years ago I did have three rounds out of around best guess my first 10k of 45acp that ended up with out powder. Thankfully I was the one that fired all 3 and at the shot i instantly noticed the near complete lack of recoil and as it was a semi auto the gun couldn't cycle to the next round. Might have been different if it would've been 357 or 38 reloads.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DartonJager, post: 1636202, member: 95733"] Buster, I use to do (and sadly don't that much any more) a HUGE amount of pheasant and upland game hunting. Consequently I have very, VERY large numbers of 12 gauge 2.75 and 3" upland game loads sitting in my shotgun ammo storage cabinets, many of which are now approaching 20-25 years old. One purpose I use them for is a cost saving measure to help sight in my turkey gun. Another is I have my sons shoot them for practice prior to turkey season. I don't take any special precautions in storing them other than keeping them in my basement which thanks to two dehumidifiers I keep the humidity level very low. In the last 5 years since my sons began turkey hunting and beginning two seasons ago I scoped my turkey guns I have used up well over 100 of my upland game loads that had been sitting idle for at least 20 years and not a single problem did I encounter with a single round. Long ago I called both Winchester and federal and asked what was the max shelf life of their loaded ammo, they both replied if stored properly it was well in excess of 20 years. called my favorite powder makers with the same question and their replay was basically the same. If you have shotgun ammo that it is 20 or less years old and it has always been stored properly and you experience a failure to fire with it or sum other issue it IMHO it is almost certainly due to a defect when it was manufactured. Knock on wood x1K but I have fired countless 10s of thousands of rounds in my life (100sKs if you include 22 rimfire) so far of rifle, shotgun and pistol and never had a single ammunition related issue. Now with my reloads when I first began using a progressive relaoder over 25 years ago I did have three rounds out of around best guess my first 10k of 45acp that ended up with out powder. Thankfully I was the one that fired all 3 and at the shot i instantly noticed the near complete lack of recoil and as it was a semi auto the gun couldn't cycle to the next round. Might have been different if it would've been 357 or 38 reloads. [/QUOTE]
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