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<blockquote data-quote="planetwaves" data-source="post: 1546632" data-attributes="member: 84697"><p>I grew up in Utah (hunted mule deer for about 10 years) and have lived in Oregon for the last 30 years. In Utah, you will likely hunt mule deer much more often than elk, unless you contract with an elk guide each year. While in Utah, I used a 30-06 with factory ammo (that was before I started reloading). In Oregon I have used both a 300 WM and a 270 Win to kill elk (3 with the 270 and 3 with the 300WM). Of the 6 elk, all were within 450 yards and within that range the 270 using 130 gr Nosler Ballistic tips at 3050 fps did equal damage to the 300 WM using 185 gr Berger classic hunters at 2750 fps. Notice that the 300 WM load is not a hot load and is essentially the same as a 30-06 load. In working up a load, I found a node that gave single hole 4 shot groups at 100 yards. But it is at 72.5 gr of H4831. You could get the same performance with a 30-06 using a lot less powder (i.e, 57.5 gr of H4350 would give closer to 2800 fps). Since I am not a "long range hunter" I developed a "range chart" and validated out to 600 yards. I won't shoot at game beyond 500, even though the load is capable of going further. So what I am hinting at here is the following. The 300 WM is a fine caliber and you can't go wrong with it in terms of performance on game. But rather than getting a 300 WM with a muzzle break, you could do everything you are planning to do with a 30-06. The recoil will be low enough that you don't need a muzzle break (which will kill your ears if you use it in the field without ear protection). The 30-06 is quite versatile for anything you might ever hunt in Utah. Just my 2 cents.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="planetwaves, post: 1546632, member: 84697"] I grew up in Utah (hunted mule deer for about 10 years) and have lived in Oregon for the last 30 years. In Utah, you will likely hunt mule deer much more often than elk, unless you contract with an elk guide each year. While in Utah, I used a 30-06 with factory ammo (that was before I started reloading). In Oregon I have used both a 300 WM and a 270 Win to kill elk (3 with the 270 and 3 with the 300WM). Of the 6 elk, all were within 450 yards and within that range the 270 using 130 gr Nosler Ballistic tips at 3050 fps did equal damage to the 300 WM using 185 gr Berger classic hunters at 2750 fps. Notice that the 300 WM load is not a hot load and is essentially the same as a 30-06 load. In working up a load, I found a node that gave single hole 4 shot groups at 100 yards. But it is at 72.5 gr of H4831. You could get the same performance with a 30-06 using a lot less powder (i.e, 57.5 gr of H4350 would give closer to 2800 fps). Since I am not a "long range hunter" I developed a "range chart" and validated out to 600 yards. I won't shoot at game beyond 500, even though the load is capable of going further. So what I am hinting at here is the following. The 300 WM is a fine caliber and you can't go wrong with it in terms of performance on game. But rather than getting a 300 WM with a muzzle break, you could do everything you are planning to do with a 30-06. The recoil will be low enough that you don't need a muzzle break (which will kill your ears if you use it in the field without ear protection). The 30-06 is quite versatile for anything you might ever hunt in Utah. Just my 2 cents. [/QUOTE]
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