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<blockquote data-quote="Bullmark" data-source="post: 2274882" data-attributes="member: 113003"><p>So I wanted to get some takes on my dilemma.</p><p>I'm a long time hunter but new to the long range space. I just bought my first bipod, an Atlas V8 I believe.</p><p>I took it to my lease and realized I was gonna hafta shoot from a prone position, which is not something I've done much.</p><p>I was shooting 2 different rifles, both very accurate off the bench.....always .5moa but usually less if I do my part.</p><p>Rifle #1 is a 6.5prc shooting hand loaded rounds. At a range of 205 yds, I shot 2 diff 3-shot groups and both groups were right on the money and inside of 1".</p><p>Rifle #2 was a different story. It's a custom .280ai also shooting hand loads and from the bench it's the most consistent shooter I've ever owned. I used the same "technique" with both rifles and felt like I squeezed off some good shots. But my POI was a good 3" low and 1.5" right. I have that rifle zeroed at 100yds, don't ask me why, but i dialed the 5 or 6 clicks to bring it up at that distance.</p><p>Both 3-shot groups were low and right, plus they were not great groups. This rifle is always .5 MOA and most of the time better. These groups were 2.5" groups.....at 205 yds. I checked my scope and it's rock solid, nothing loose.</p><p>Had I not shot such nice groups with Rifle #1, I would think it was me and my lack of experience both shooting prone and off a bipod.</p><p>I saw a Gunwerks video where the shooter said, in no uncertain terms, that some rifles would shift their POI from a bipod, while others may not.</p><p>I'm going to take it to the indoor range and shoot off sand bags and see what happens.</p><p>The POI shift is easy to fix.....but the grouping issue is altogether different.</p><p>What do you guys think???</p><p>Not that it matters, but Rifle #1 has a proof carbon barrel and #2 a Bartlein SS. Rifle #2 is supposed to be my deer size game option out to 450-500, but with groups that loose, I couldn't take that long of a shot.</p><p>Somebody throw me a lifeline.....thanks.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/posts/2274467/report" target="_blank">R</a>In<a href="https://www.adpeepshosted.com/adpeeps.php?bf=go&uid=101659&cid=1023120&aid=908813&bzone=300-250-odh&btype=3" target="_blank"><img src="https://img.adpeepshosted.com/101659_1023120_908813_450593.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><br /> </li> </ul><p></p><h3><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/whats-new/posts/?skip=1" target="_blank">Recent Posts</a></h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[USER=101859][IMG alt="Alex Wheeler"]https://www.longrangehunting.com/data/avatars/s/101/101859.jpg?1612485715[/IMG][/USER]<br /> <a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/how-to-choose-a-cartridge.272207/unread" target="_blank">How to choose a cartridge</a><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Latest: Alex Wheeler</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">5 minutes ago</li> </ul><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/long-range-hunting-shooting.17/" target="_blank">Long Range Hunting & Shooting</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[USER=114957]T[/USER]<br /> <a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/hi-from-oklahoma.277292/unread" target="_blank">Hi from Oklahoma</a><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Latest: tallgrass ranch</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">5 minutes ago</li> </ul><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/member-introductions.65/" target="_blank">Member Introductions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[USER=116620]H[/USER]<br /> <a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/absolute-hammer-load-data.250143/unread" target="_blank">Absolute Hammer load data</a><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Latest: Hard rock</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">7 minutes ago</li> </ul><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/reloading.28/" target="_blank">Reloading</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[USER=61338]L[/USER]<br /> <a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-new-here-good-evening.278710/unread" target="_blank">I'm new here good evening!</a><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Latest: Liberator</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">7 minutes ago</li> </ul><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/member-introductions.65/" target="_blank">Member Introductions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[USER=113619][IMG alt="Sockeye66"]https://www.longrangehunting.com/data/avatars/s/113/113619.jpg?1602535464[/IMG][/USER]<br /> <a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/lever-hammer.278703/unread" target="_blank">Lever Hammer</a><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Latest: Sockeye66</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">7 minutes ago</li> </ul><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/rifles-bullets-barrels-ballistics.19/" target="_blank">Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics</a></li> </ul> <div style="text-align: center"></div> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/equipment-discussions.23/" target="_blank">Equipment Discussions</a></li> </ul> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/misc/contact" target="_blank">Contact us</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/help/terms/" target="_blank">Terms and rules</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/help/privacy-policy/" target="_blank">Privacy policy</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/help/" target="_blank">Help</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/-/index.rss" target="_blank">RSS</a></li> </ul><p><a href="https://xenforo.com/" target="_blank">Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.</a></p><p>AN ELITE CAFEMEDIA PUBLISHER</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bullmark, post: 2274882, member: 113003"] So I wanted to get some takes on my dilemma. I’m a long time hunter but new to the long range space. I just bought my first bipod, an Atlas V8 I believe. I took it to my lease and realized I was gonna hafta shoot from a prone position, which is not something I’ve done much. I was shooting 2 different rifles, both very accurate off the bench.....always .5moa but usually less if I do my part. Rifle #1 is a 6.5prc shooting hand loaded rounds. At a range of 205 yds, I shot 2 diff 3-shot groups and both groups were right on the money and inside of 1”. Rifle #2 was a different story. It’s a custom .280ai also shooting hand loads and from the bench it’s the most consistent shooter I’ve ever owned. I used the same “technique” with both rifles and felt like I squeezed off some good shots. But my POI was a good 3” low and 1.5” right. I have that rifle zeroed at 100yds, don’t ask me why, but i dialed the 5 or 6 clicks to bring it up at that distance. Both 3-shot groups were low and right, plus they were not great groups. This rifle is always .5 MOA and most of the time better. These groups were 2.5” groups.....at 205 yds. I checked my scope and it’s rock solid, nothing loose. Had I not shot such nice groups with Rifle #1, I would think it was me and my lack of experience both shooting prone and off a bipod. I saw a Gunwerks video where the shooter said, in no uncertain terms, that some rifles would shift their POI from a bipod, while others may not. I’m going to take it to the indoor range and shoot off sand bags and see what happens. The POI shift is easy to fix.....but the grouping issue is altogether different. What do you guys think??? Not that it matters, but Rifle #1 has a proof carbon barrel and #2 a Bartlein SS. Rifle #2 is supposed to be my deer size game option out to 450-500, but with groups that loose, I couldn’t take that long of a shot. Somebody throw me a lifeline.....thanks. [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/posts/2274467/report']R[/URL]In[URL='https://www.adpeepshosted.com/adpeeps.php?bf=go&uid=101659&cid=1023120&aid=908813&bzone=300-250-odh&btype=3'][IMG]https://img.adpeepshosted.com/101659_1023120_908813_450593.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [LIST] [*] [/LIST] [HEADING=2][URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/whats-new/posts/?skip=1']Recent Posts[/URL][/HEADING] [LIST] [*][USER=101859][IMG alt="Alex Wheeler"]https://www.longrangehunting.com/data/avatars/s/101/101859.jpg?1612485715[/IMG][/USER] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/how-to-choose-a-cartridge.272207/unread']How to choose a cartridge[/URL] [LIST] [*]Latest: Alex Wheeler [*] [*]5 minutes ago [/LIST] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/long-range-hunting-shooting.17/']Long Range Hunting & Shooting[/URL] [*][USER=114957]T[/USER] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/hi-from-oklahoma.277292/unread']Hi from Oklahoma[/URL] [LIST] [*]Latest: tallgrass ranch [*] [*]5 minutes ago [/LIST] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/member-introductions.65/']Member Introductions[/URL] [*][USER=116620]H[/USER] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/absolute-hammer-load-data.250143/unread']Absolute Hammer load data[/URL] [LIST] [*]Latest: Hard rock [*] [*]7 minutes ago [/LIST] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/reloading.28/']Reloading[/URL] [*][USER=61338]L[/USER] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-new-here-good-evening.278710/unread']I’m new here good evening![/URL] [LIST] [*]Latest: Liberator [*] [*]7 minutes ago [/LIST] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/member-introductions.65/']Member Introductions[/URL] [*][USER=113619][IMG alt="Sockeye66"]https://www.longrangehunting.com/data/avatars/s/113/113619.jpg?1602535464[/IMG][/USER] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/lever-hammer.278703/unread']Lever Hammer[/URL] [LIST] [*]Latest: Sockeye66 [*] [*]7 minutes ago [/LIST] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/rifles-bullets-barrels-ballistics.19/']Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics[/URL] [/LIST] [CENTER][/CENTER] [LIST] [*] [URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/equipment-discussions.23/']Equipment Discussions[/URL] [/LIST] [LIST] [*][URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/misc/contact']Contact us[/URL] [*][URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/help/terms/']Terms and rules[/URL] [*][URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/help/privacy-policy/']Privacy policy[/URL] [*][URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/help/']Help[/URL] [*][URL='https://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/-/index.rss']RSS[/URL] [/LIST] [URL='https://xenforo.com/']Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.[/URL] AN ELITE CAFEMEDIA PUBLISHER [/QUOTE]
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