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<blockquote data-quote="Euler" data-source="post: 2552426" data-attributes="member: 107601"><p>I haven't bought a March due to the tight eyebox and finicky parallax reputation. AND, resell seems a bit lower and harder to move than other $3k+ optics. The recent March sale was pretty tempting though, and the field of view of the new wide angle March 4.5-28 does look appealing.</p><p></p><p>I own/have owned Tangent, ZCOs, Kahles, ATACRs, AMG, Gen 2 Razors, Mark 5, & some others, and I've used, but didn't own, some other models. I've shot all of them to 1,000+ yards, and have put almost all in a fixture to test tracking against a calibrated chart. TT and ZCO occupy the top spot from my experience. I agree with above that the ZCO420 is the best all around optic, and I prefer it to my 5-27. I also agree that if weight is a large concern, the Tangent Theta 3-15 is where you should look. With Tenebraex caps, my Tangent is 27.8oz, so it would be around +/- 26oz without caps. If you can only afford one, get the ZCO420 IMO. If you can afford multiple, get the Tangent for a dedicated hunting rifle and ZCO for multi purpose/comp/range/etc rifle.</p><p></p><p>Although reticles are somewhat personal, I think Tangents biggest detraction is their reticle selection, especially for cross-over use. The Gen 2 Mildot or LRH reticles are great hunting specific reticles, and the Gen3XR is a great 'target' reticle, but the 0.025 mil thickness of the Gen3XR is too fine for a 3-15 hunting optic IMO. The 0.035 mil thick MPCT 1/2, SKMR 1/3, EBR variants, etc. are good enough on low power IMO, and the 0.04 mil thick mil-c is good on low power as well. If Tangent bumped up the reticle thickness in the Gen3XR to 0.04 mils in the 3-15, I'd have a couple more. OR if ZCO could drop 8oz on their 4-20, I'd have several of them. But variety isn't the worst thing in the world.</p><p></p><p>Kahles generally doesn't seem to get a ton of love on a few different forums. Although I would agree that optically the Kahles is a step down from Tangent or ZCO, the overall package of the Kahles k-series is good, and they really shine on the secondary market for +/- $2,500. The Kahles K525i is one of the very few that I regret selling.</p><p></p><p>One other thing to note on the March 4.5-28 as well as the ZCO420, if mounting on a long action, obtaining optimized eye relief could be a challenge on a long action without an adjustable cheek piece and relatively tall rings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Euler, post: 2552426, member: 107601"] I haven't bought a March due to the tight eyebox and finicky parallax reputation. AND, resell seems a bit lower and harder to move than other $3k+ optics. The recent March sale was pretty tempting though, and the field of view of the new wide angle March 4.5-28 does look appealing. I own/have owned Tangent, ZCOs, Kahles, ATACRs, AMG, Gen 2 Razors, Mark 5, & some others, and I've used, but didn't own, some other models. I've shot all of them to 1,000+ yards, and have put almost all in a fixture to test tracking against a calibrated chart. TT and ZCO occupy the top spot from my experience. I agree with above that the ZCO420 is the best all around optic, and I prefer it to my 5-27. I also agree that if weight is a large concern, the Tangent Theta 3-15 is where you should look. With Tenebraex caps, my Tangent is 27.8oz, so it would be around +/- 26oz without caps. If you can only afford one, get the ZCO420 IMO. If you can afford multiple, get the Tangent for a dedicated hunting rifle and ZCO for multi purpose/comp/range/etc rifle. Although reticles are somewhat personal, I think Tangents biggest detraction is their reticle selection, especially for cross-over use. The Gen 2 Mildot or LRH reticles are great hunting specific reticles, and the Gen3XR is a great 'target' reticle, but the 0.025 mil thickness of the Gen3XR is too fine for a 3-15 hunting optic IMO. The 0.035 mil thick MPCT 1/2, SKMR 1/3, EBR variants, etc. are good enough on low power IMO, and the 0.04 mil thick mil-c is good on low power as well. If Tangent bumped up the reticle thickness in the Gen3XR to 0.04 mils in the 3-15, I'd have a couple more. OR if ZCO could drop 8oz on their 4-20, I'd have several of them. But variety isn't the worst thing in the world. Kahles generally doesn't seem to get a ton of love on a few different forums. Although I would agree that optically the Kahles is a step down from Tangent or ZCO, the overall package of the Kahles k-series is good, and they really shine on the secondary market for +/- $2,500. The Kahles K525i is one of the very few that I regret selling. One other thing to note on the March 4.5-28 as well as the ZCO420, if mounting on a long action, obtaining optimized eye relief could be a challenge on a long action without an adjustable cheek piece and relatively tall rings. [/QUOTE]
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