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Making A Case For The 308 Winchester By Michael Eichelle
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<blockquote data-quote="pcat" data-source="post: 461114" data-attributes="member: 26990"><p>Shooting large game with a bullet with less than 1000 ft# of energy is just wrong.I have .308,.300 savages and wouldn't consider anything over 400 yrd as an ethical shot.A '06 with a long barrel is a little better.I can wring almost .300 w.mag volocities out of a heavy bullet but with the short magazines coupled with the low volume in .308 brass,it isn't practical nor reasonable. I read all the claims for 3000fps for 200 gr. bullets and am just flabbergasted that no other member has challenged them on those claims.Short of blowing up the gun,it isn't possible and I guess the first lier had to be outdone by the rest.Looking at my speer reloader book confirms my last statement and woe to the poor sob who tries to match these liers claims.I think the .308,.307,,300 savage and any other caliber in that range is a great 200 to 300 yd game getter.It beats the pants off of 30/30 and yet that lowly round has accounted for 8 out of 10 deer ever killed.Funny how such a low power,slow bullet could be so effective.Its because most shots are under 150 yds.Simply keeping the range to the power applied to kill HUMANELY.Sure,we hear about the long range shots with low power rounds but they rarely do the job cleanly.I shot 500 yd to 700 yd shots with the '06 but never would take that shot with a .308.Those who claim they can take game cleanly at extended ranges with one are delusional.I wouldn't take a 1000yd shot with an 06,either.Thats why magnums were made for and thats why I use them.If you want to shoot a mile dont use a cap gun. I harvested my 5x5 mule deer on ----------- mt in the okanogan,wa. last season with a 150 gr remington psp corlokt. .300 savage hand load at 160yds.Clean one shot through the lungs and down for the count. No tracking,no following a blood trail.Just walk up and start him rolling down the mountain and drag him to the trailhead.Long range shooting for some but I could have got him at twice that range.If I was covering a longer range I would have moved up to the '06 or some magnum.I like to eat what I shoot so I try to use enough power without losing half the meat.You make the judgement but if you can't handle the recoil,its not likely you are going to hit what you are aiming at so if the .308 is what you can handle then get into a spot that requires you to shoot less than 400 yds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pcat, post: 461114, member: 26990"] Shooting large game with a bullet with less than 1000 ft# of energy is just wrong.I have .308,.300 savages and wouldn't consider anything over 400 yrd as an ethical shot.A '06 with a long barrel is a little better.I can wring almost .300 w.mag volocities out of a heavy bullet but with the short magazines coupled with the low volume in .308 brass,it isn't practical nor reasonable. I read all the claims for 3000fps for 200 gr. bullets and am just flabbergasted that no other member has challenged them on those claims.Short of blowing up the gun,it isn't possible and I guess the first lier had to be outdone by the rest.Looking at my speer reloader book confirms my last statement and woe to the poor sob who tries to match these liers claims.I think the .308,.307,,300 savage and any other caliber in that range is a great 200 to 300 yd game getter.It beats the pants off of 30/30 and yet that lowly round has accounted for 8 out of 10 deer ever killed.Funny how such a low power,slow bullet could be so effective.Its because most shots are under 150 yds.Simply keeping the range to the power applied to kill HUMANELY.Sure,we hear about the long range shots with low power rounds but they rarely do the job cleanly.I shot 500 yd to 700 yd shots with the '06 but never would take that shot with a .308.Those who claim they can take game cleanly at extended ranges with one are delusional.I wouldn't take a 1000yd shot with an 06,either.Thats why magnums were made for and thats why I use them.If you want to shoot a mile dont use a cap gun. I harvested my 5x5 mule deer on ----------- mt in the okanogan,wa. last season with a 150 gr remington psp corlokt. .300 savage hand load at 160yds.Clean one shot through the lungs and down for the count. No tracking,no following a blood trail.Just walk up and start him rolling down the mountain and drag him to the trailhead.Long range shooting for some but I could have got him at twice that range.If I was covering a longer range I would have moved up to the '06 or some magnum.I like to eat what I shoot so I try to use enough power without losing half the meat.You make the judgement but if you can't handle the recoil,its not likely you are going to hit what you are aiming at so if the .308 is what you can handle then get into a spot that requires you to shoot less than 400 yds. [/QUOTE]
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