Yep, same, H4831sc is my go to for a few loads. I use RL23 with a 140 NAB with great results, as well. And found IMR4831 and IMR4350 works well too with different bullets! I've got some Magpro so I'm curious to see how it works for others.Not me !! My pet load is 59.5 Grns of H 4831SC /130 Grn Ballistic tip. Works too well for many years .