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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 862330" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Good hell, put your big boy pants on, learn from your decisions and move on. I was never personally attacking you. All I have ever stated was that this was a poor bullet choice for what you wanted the bullet to do. That is a true statement, just as true now as it was before you decided to use this bullet on moose. </p><p> </p><p>Had you wanted to use a Hornady match bullet or Sierra match bullet you would have gotten the same exact reply from me and most others on this post.</p><p> </p><p>The results you got were predictable to anyone that has taken the time to fully research the bullet of topic. Had you simply asked before hand for advice and experience you would have gotten more information then you could have ever read in one day. </p><p> </p><p>In your own words you were totally uneducated about the game you would be hunting, yet its the bullet makers fault. Man up and own up to the fact this was simply a poor choice in bullets, learn your lesson and move on. That is my only point. If you take my posts as personal attacks then that's on you, that was not my intention.</p><p> </p><p>I have no problem with anyone posting field results of any products but when one comes on here can reports using such a bullet for such a job and then claiming its because of bullet failure, COME ON. We need to take on some personal responsibility.</p><p> </p><p>With just a few seconds of typing you could have asked a simple question and in your own words, EDUCATED yourself to avoid these results.</p><p> </p><p>I have never disagreed with anything you have posted as far as results of the events that happened. They were totally predictable in my opinion. But when you post these results from a situation where the bullet chosen was an obvious mistake and then claim that its the fault of the bullet or bullet manufacturer......... Again, take SOME personal responsibility and learn from what has happened.</p><p> </p><p>If you have information and data and results that support your claims, LAY IT ALL ON THE TABLE at the start of your comments. It just looks bad when you make claims of bullet failure, then MANY tell you you should have used a 300 gr version or completely different bullet design all together and then out of the blue, you have another berger bullet failure story...... I am not accusing you of anything but if you can not open your eyes and see how that looks when you do that, well, not sure what to say.</p><p> </p><p>I am sure this post will be taken as a personal attack as well, so be it, not sure how to reply that would not be taken as an attack except if I said, **** berger, they should have told you this would happen, its all their fault...... That simply is not true though. One only has to ask these days to become educated on most things, takes very little time and effort but really pays off huge in the end.</p><p> </p><p>By the way, STILL have not heard if the deer in the second story was lost or recovered?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 862330, member: 10"] Good hell, put your big boy pants on, learn from your decisions and move on. I was never personally attacking you. All I have ever stated was that this was a poor bullet choice for what you wanted the bullet to do. That is a true statement, just as true now as it was before you decided to use this bullet on moose. Had you wanted to use a Hornady match bullet or Sierra match bullet you would have gotten the same exact reply from me and most others on this post. The results you got were predictable to anyone that has taken the time to fully research the bullet of topic. Had you simply asked before hand for advice and experience you would have gotten more information then you could have ever read in one day. In your own words you were totally uneducated about the game you would be hunting, yet its the bullet makers fault. Man up and own up to the fact this was simply a poor choice in bullets, learn your lesson and move on. That is my only point. If you take my posts as personal attacks then that's on you, that was not my intention. I have no problem with anyone posting field results of any products but when one comes on here can reports using such a bullet for such a job and then claiming its because of bullet failure, COME ON. We need to take on some personal responsibility. With just a few seconds of typing you could have asked a simple question and in your own words, EDUCATED yourself to avoid these results. I have never disagreed with anything you have posted as far as results of the events that happened. They were totally predictable in my opinion. But when you post these results from a situation where the bullet chosen was an obvious mistake and then claim that its the fault of the bullet or bullet manufacturer......... Again, take SOME personal responsibility and learn from what has happened. If you have information and data and results that support your claims, LAY IT ALL ON THE TABLE at the start of your comments. It just looks bad when you make claims of bullet failure, then MANY tell you you should have used a 300 gr version or completely different bullet design all together and then out of the blue, you have another berger bullet failure story...... I am not accusing you of anything but if you can not open your eyes and see how that looks when you do that, well, not sure what to say. I am sure this post will be taken as a personal attack as well, so be it, not sure how to reply that would not be taken as an attack except if I said, **** berger, they should have told you this would happen, its all their fault...... That simply is not true though. One only has to ask these days to become educated on most things, takes very little time and effort but really pays off huge in the end. By the way, STILL have not heard if the deer in the second story was lost or recovered? [/QUOTE]
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