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<blockquote data-quote="Turpentine21" data-source="post: 2678614" data-attributes="member: 124909"><p>I love my 308 in AR. And it’s happy at mag length. My biggest struggle with my 308 700 is that it really is not happy until you exceed standard mag length. I’m shooting 168s and still have bullet taking up usable case capacity and am nowhere near the lands. I added a Wyatt’s bottom metal and mag which gave me a little more room, tightened groups a little bit, and feeds much better than my factory mag. But I’m still limited, still not close to the lands, and she stills wants to be long enough for accuracy that I need to single load. While I like the rifle. It Will likely be my last short action.</p><p>I have a different mindset than most folks today. While most are scrambling to buy the latest model bow. I still shoot my homemade longbow or 30 year old Black Widow. I own one “modern” age cartridge. The 6.5 Grendel. I do like ARs. For my purposes, the Grendel made the AR a more useful tool for me, so I went with it. But I still don’t like being limited to mag length in that platform.</p><p>Just like in archery, my interest lies in the tried and true cartridges with bolt actions and I don’t intend to be hindered by mag length again. Though I may be swayed by a 257 bob or 6.5 x55. I like 6mm Remington, 25-06, 270 Win, 6.5-06, and 30-06. If I went magnum, but I never will, it would be 7mm REM Mag or 300 Win mag. Brass procurement is not an issue for my favorites. I don’t know of any new caliber in bolt action that would offer a significant advantage for my needs. There are however two modern short action calibers that are eye catching for me. 6.5 and 7 Saum. But brass would have to flood the market to make it a consideration. But if I went there, medium action would be a minimum and long action more probable. But I know me and I’ll likely never go there. There again, I prefer the older stuff. The Mack Brothers Evo 2 action I just built my 6.5-06 with and accompanying mags seat quite a bit longer than book values plus get me to the lands and well beyond with 140, 143, and 147 grain bullets and feeds extremely smooth with either the MDT AICS or the Magpul AICS 30-06 mag. The MDT holds 7+1, the Magpul 5+1. I had to tweak the MDT feed lips</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Turpentine21, post: 2678614, member: 124909"] I love my 308 in AR. And it’s happy at mag length. My biggest struggle with my 308 700 is that it really is not happy until you exceed standard mag length. I’m shooting 168s and still have bullet taking up usable case capacity and am nowhere near the lands. I added a Wyatt’s bottom metal and mag which gave me a little more room, tightened groups a little bit, and feeds much better than my factory mag. But I’m still limited, still not close to the lands, and she stills wants to be long enough for accuracy that I need to single load. While I like the rifle. It Will likely be my last short action. I have a different mindset than most folks today. While most are scrambling to buy the latest model bow. I still shoot my homemade longbow or 30 year old Black Widow. I own one “modern” age cartridge. The 6.5 Grendel. I do like ARs. For my purposes, the Grendel made the AR a more useful tool for me, so I went with it. But I still don’t like being limited to mag length in that platform. Just like in archery, my interest lies in the tried and true cartridges with bolt actions and I don’t intend to be hindered by mag length again. Though I may be swayed by a 257 bob or 6.5 x55. I like 6mm Remington, 25-06, 270 Win, 6.5-06, and 30-06. If I went magnum, but I never will, it would be 7mm REM Mag or 300 Win mag. Brass procurement is not an issue for my favorites. I don’t know of any new caliber in bolt action that would offer a significant advantage for my needs. There are however two modern short action calibers that are eye catching for me. 6.5 and 7 Saum. But brass would have to flood the market to make it a consideration. But if I went there, medium action would be a minimum and long action more probable. But I know me and I’ll likely never go there. There again, I prefer the older stuff. The Mack Brothers Evo 2 action I just built my 6.5-06 with and accompanying mags seat quite a bit longer than book values plus get me to the lands and well beyond with 140, 143, and 147 grain bullets and feeds extremely smooth with either the MDT AICS or the Magpul AICS 30-06 mag. The MDT holds 7+1, the Magpul 5+1. I had to tweak the MDT feed lips [/QUOTE]
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