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Loaning a suppressor on private property?
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<blockquote data-quote="ADHD" data-source="post: 1788434" data-attributes="member: 98188"><p>Letter of the law explanation on under owners supervision ,can go so far as to having suppressors in a room , not in a safe or under lock and key , that others can easily access. As in an unlocked room of your house ,where others reside that are not on the trust for suppressor . And as far as easily adding people to trust at any time simply by filing addendum , that ship has sailed as well. Now , any individual being added to a trust ,must complete same background check as original person. They pretty much did away with a lot of the GOOD parts of having a trust , such as sharing between friends ,simply by adding them to trust . </p><p> I am a class 07 manufacturer with 02 SOT , AND have been through 4 intense audits with ATF ,including one that bordered on harassment ,which took 3 months , and ended with myself and Joshua Prince ,going in front of The Who's who of the eastern ATF in Philadelphia ATF ,for a possible revocation over clerical errors only . Very eye opening due to how the different class FFLs are charged when violations occur, such as a retail FFL can have several of the same violations and be cited for one , but being a manufacturer ,each violation counts as one ,wether the same or different , so my A&D books having hash marks between top fully completed and bottom fully completed entry for where transferred from , when receiving multiple guns from same place ,counted as repeat violations ,which brings up possible revocation process. </p><p> Only saying all of this to make point that even among FFLs , there will b different answers ,due to different class FFLs. I can legally manufacture and possess pretty much anything up to but not including explosives as currently licensed. But I have to dot every I, and cross every T on paperwork ,or it's my ***. So I sent several hundred guns to auction and now order guns for customers ,do drawings ,and just build ,customize and gunsmith, so that there is less chance for errors as most are on the 4473s anyways . But definitely ILLEGAL to loan unless with person entire time , and to those thinking can still just write in someone on their trust , ya best check up on that as it most definitely changed last year</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ADHD, post: 1788434, member: 98188"] Letter of the law explanation on under owners supervision ,can go so far as to having suppressors in a room , not in a safe or under lock and key , that others can easily access. As in an unlocked room of your house ,where others reside that are not on the trust for suppressor . And as far as easily adding people to trust at any time simply by filing addendum , that ship has sailed as well. Now , any individual being added to a trust ,must complete same background check as original person. They pretty much did away with a lot of the GOOD parts of having a trust , such as sharing between friends ,simply by adding them to trust . I am a class 07 manufacturer with 02 SOT , AND have been through 4 intense audits with ATF ,including one that bordered on harassment ,which took 3 months , and ended with myself and Joshua Prince ,going in front of The Who’s who of the eastern ATF in Philadelphia ATF ,for a possible revocation over clerical errors only . Very eye opening due to how the different class FFLs are charged when violations occur, such as a retail FFL can have several of the same violations and be cited for one , but being a manufacturer ,each violation counts as one ,wether the same or different , so my A&D books having hash marks between top fully completed and bottom fully completed entry for where transferred from , when receiving multiple guns from same place ,counted as repeat violations ,which brings up possible revocation process. Only saying all of this to make point that even among FFLs , there will b different answers ,due to different class FFLs. I can legally manufacture and possess pretty much anything up to but not including explosives as currently licensed. But I have to dot every I, and cross every T on paperwork ,or it’s my ***. So I sent several hundred guns to auction and now order guns for customers ,do drawings ,and just build ,customize and gunsmith, so that there is less chance for errors as most are on the 4473s anyways . But definitely ILLEGAL to loan unless with person entire time , and to those thinking can still just write in someone on their trust , ya best check up on that as it most definitely changed last year [/QUOTE]
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