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<blockquote data-quote="Paparock" data-source="post: 1527954" data-attributes="member: 106235"><p>Hi, everyone. Brenneke slugs have long been the standard by which all others are measured. I have two others you might be interested in one from a small company and the other from a big manufacturer. Federal's line for the .458 Win. Mag. includes a couple of 500 grain controlled expansion type bullets, and a 500 grain solid. All of these are loaded to a MV of 2,090 fps and a ME of 4,850 ft. lbs. If you take note below the Lightfield Commander IDS Plus 3-1/2″ 12 ga slug load steps all over the heels of the .458 Win. Mag. firing a controlled expansion slug of 600 grains so it is not something to ignore if you can handle it. Even the 3" is a formidable round and easier on recoil. The Dixie IXL-DGS (Dangerous Game Slug) is a close range 870 grain .73 caliber non-expanding thumper. It all depends on where and how you hunt or what you are looking for in a 12 Gauge round. These rounds turn a 12 gauge into a whole different weapon.</p><p></p><p>I have a custom shop original model Deerslayer III 3" with a fully rifled Bull Barrel that has a custom trigger and weighs 11lbs. The heavy bull barrel is screwed into the steel action which makes it in essence a .73 caliber pump action rifle for close range work yet with the right ammo can reach out to 200 Yards if needed. Believe me you do not want to touch of these rounds in a light weight 12 gauge!!</p><p></p><p>1st. is from Lightfield Ammo. They make both a Commander IDS Plus 3″ 12 ga. and a Commander IDS Plus 3-1/2″ 12 ga. round.</p><p></p><p>The Commander IDS Plus 3″ 12 ga The Lightfield IDS Commander Plus was designed as a high velocity Sabot Slug for use in modern rifled barrel and smooth bore shotguns. Its 1 3/8 oz (600 grain) at 1700 FPS, 73 caliber slug producing 3850 ft/lbs at the barrel and 1324 ft/lbs @ 150 yards. TKO= 107!! The patented IDS design incorporates an impact-discarding Sabot that aids stability in the wind and produces a <em>controlled expansion slug</em> for deeper penetration for larger big game animals.</p><p></p><p>Commander IDS Plus 3-1/2″ 12 ga the difference between it and the 3" above is it produces 1890 FPS and 4759 ft/lbs of energy at the barre firing the same 600grain sabot.</p><p></p><p>Dixie Slugs makes the IXL-DGS (Dangerous Game Slug) which is .730" and weighs 870 grs. and leaves a 20" barrel at 1200FPS. This is similar to the old black powder 2 bore elephant rounds according to my understanding. It ix not meant for longer ranges but as a stopping round at 25 yards and under.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paparock, post: 1527954, member: 106235"] Hi, everyone. Brenneke slugs have long been the standard by which all others are measured. I have two others you might be interested in one from a small company and the other from a big manufacturer. Federal's line for the .458 Win. Mag. includes a couple of 500 grain controlled expansion type bullets, and a 500 grain solid. All of these are loaded to a MV of 2,090 fps and a ME of 4,850 ft. lbs. If you take note below the Lightfield Commander IDS Plus 3-1/2″ 12 ga slug load steps all over the heels of the .458 Win. Mag. firing a controlled expansion slug of 600 grains so it is not something to ignore if you can handle it. Even the 3" is a formidable round and easier on recoil. The Dixie IXL-DGS (Dangerous Game Slug) is a close range 870 grain .73 caliber non-expanding thumper. It all depends on where and how you hunt or what you are looking for in a 12 Gauge round. These rounds turn a 12 gauge into a whole different weapon. I have a custom shop original model Deerslayer III 3" with a fully rifled Bull Barrel that has a custom trigger and weighs 11lbs. The heavy bull barrel is screwed into the steel action which makes it in essence a .73 caliber pump action rifle for close range work yet with the right ammo can reach out to 200 Yards if needed. Believe me you do not want to touch of these rounds in a light weight 12 gauge!! 1st. is from Lightfield Ammo. They make both a Commander IDS Plus 3″ 12 ga. and a Commander IDS Plus 3-1/2″ 12 ga. round. The Commander IDS Plus 3″ 12 ga The Lightfield IDS Commander Plus was designed as a high velocity Sabot Slug for use in modern rifled barrel and smooth bore shotguns. Its 1 3/8 oz (600 grain) at 1700 FPS, 73 caliber slug producing 3850 ft/lbs at the barrel and 1324 ft/lbs @ 150 yards. TKO= 107!! The patented IDS design incorporates an impact-discarding Sabot that aids stability in the wind and produces a [I]controlled expansion slug[/I] for deeper penetration for larger big game animals. Commander IDS Plus 3-1/2″ 12 ga the difference between it and the 3" above is it produces 1890 FPS and 4759 ft/lbs of energy at the barre firing the same 600grain sabot. Dixie Slugs makes the IXL-DGS (Dangerous Game Slug) which is .730" and weighs 870 grs. and leaves a 20" barrel at 1200FPS. This is similar to the old black powder 2 bore elephant rounds according to my understanding. It ix not meant for longer ranges but as a stopping round at 25 yards and under. [/QUOTE]
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