I have both Norma and Lapua. I fired some of the Norma 7 times and the brass is still good. I just reloaded the Lapua 2 times. The Norma and Lapua brass are very nice and precise. The Lapua brass was more shinier new with a annealling dull color of the neck area. The rim of the Lapua is a little bigger, thicker than the rim of the Norma. Its tighter going into my shell holder. After trying Norma and Lapua brass I no longer care to by domestic brass anymore.