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<blockquote data-quote="kraig" data-source="post: 1524592" data-attributes="member: 108101"><p>Good advice Salmonchaser! My son like the original poster drives himself NUTZ because one day he will shoot a 500 yard 3 round group that is less than one inch, then expect that to be the norm. The reality is if it is a hunting rifle, first shot is the most important shot. Then it is real good to know what it does on a follow up shot or two. Knowing what the gun really does isn't found in a few good groups but what you can expect over time over the largest sample data set you can get. Personally I don't like 3 shot groups because it seems way to easy to get 1 good cold bore shot and two lucky shots. Case and point I know of a young man who got to shoot a .416 barret 2400 yards and hit 4x4 steel target twice in a row not in calm conditions.</p><p></p><p>I personally only shoot groups of 5 for measurement because typically I can get 3 good shots in a row but then the pressure builds to keep the good group and I get a flier. So I know my gun shoots .3 on a regular basis BUT me...I'm barely a .75 shooter when it comes to groups AND that is why I shoot steel. I find it much easier to shoot a 3" plate at 500 yards than to make a 3-5 round group that stays under moa at 500 yards.</p><p></p><p>Last bit of advice...shooting groups off a bench will not improve your ability to make hunting shots as much as learning to shoot in awkward positions or after running to the car and back at the range. It is so rare for a critter to come out where you can get a perfect bench rest kind of stability. For deer I just use a 6" plate at different distances and different non-bench rest positions that don't include anything I wouldn't have in the field. Hear a ring and build the confidence. Yes we aim small or at a specific hair as I've been taught but we don't have to hit that hair to put the animal down humanly. </p><p></p><p>Just my two cents that I tell folks that I shoot with that want to enjoy the range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kraig, post: 1524592, member: 108101"] Good advice Salmonchaser! My son like the original poster drives himself NUTZ because one day he will shoot a 500 yard 3 round group that is less than one inch, then expect that to be the norm. The reality is if it is a hunting rifle, first shot is the most important shot. Then it is real good to know what it does on a follow up shot or two. Knowing what the gun really does isn't found in a few good groups but what you can expect over time over the largest sample data set you can get. Personally I don't like 3 shot groups because it seems way to easy to get 1 good cold bore shot and two lucky shots. Case and point I know of a young man who got to shoot a .416 barret 2400 yards and hit 4x4 steel target twice in a row not in calm conditions. I personally only shoot groups of 5 for measurement because typically I can get 3 good shots in a row but then the pressure builds to keep the good group and I get a flier. So I know my gun shoots .3 on a regular basis BUT me...I'm barely a .75 shooter when it comes to groups AND that is why I shoot steel. I find it much easier to shoot a 3" plate at 500 yards than to make a 3-5 round group that stays under moa at 500 yards. Last bit of advice...shooting groups off a bench will not improve your ability to make hunting shots as much as learning to shoot in awkward positions or after running to the car and back at the range. It is so rare for a critter to come out where you can get a perfect bench rest kind of stability. For deer I just use a 6" plate at different distances and different non-bench rest positions that don't include anything I wouldn't have in the field. Hear a ring and build the confidence. Yes we aim small or at a specific hair as I've been taught but we don't have to hit that hair to put the animal down humanly. Just my two cents that I tell folks that I shoot with that want to enjoy the range. [/QUOTE]
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