Thanks for the response Bruce, I need to get some kind of handheld field device someday soon only have a dumb phone still , anyway went out and tried this today and well I must have done something wrong but I cant figure what ,I got 3240,3257,3204 @ 10 ft and 3140,3125 @ 290 ft chrono seperation or 100 yards from muzzle with a 175 gr rbt bullet in a 12 twist 300 rum jbm says g1 .801 ? when I shot these at 350 yesterday I was using a g1 of.550 bc and had to drop from 3 moa elev to 2 to get down on the target for ladder testing I think I read on here someone saying that their 12 twist 300rum did weird things with 178 Amaxes IDk I will try to do a little more shooting & measuring ect... hopefully Saturday