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Is Remington quality too big of a risk now days?

Wildrose, what's the street price on that .260 5R? Remington has it listed at 1600 which seems like a rip off. Please post on how it shoots.

Also, gents sorry for all the replies. I'm just really passionate and interested remingtons. I don't want to thread high jack. It's just a good thread.
 
Glad to see you have tried a Savage, and the older Rems., I own a few and they are fine. It's the new Rems. and customer service that suck.
Don't take my word for it. Go back over this thread and see how many guys agree you have to fix this or that on them in order to get some satisfaction. Even the Rem guys agree the triggers are no good, so your looking at about another 100.00 bucks on top of the price of the rifle for a Timney trigger replacement. So let's stop the B.S. about how good Remington is.

How about we stop the BS about how good Savage is, when we ALL know they've had just as many (and the same) issues that Remington has... So have ALL mass-manufacturers.
 
I have had excellent accuracy from both of the 700's that I have owned. One was an SPS in .300 win mag that I learned to shoot long range with, I could get 1/2 moa with handloads no problem.

I currently have a 700 XCR in 338 RUM and it is shooting 1/2 moa as well, I replaced the crappy trigger with a timney other than that it's a factory rifle.

Unless you're looking for a serious target rifle I really don't see the need for a custom job when a Remington will shoot so well right out of the box!

Don't believe what you hear about the savages being so much more accurate than a Remington. I've owned three and none of them
It's not about believing hype and BS, it's about accepting the targets as posted along with whatever the author is telling us are accurate.
 
To the OP,

I know this thread further confused you as well as the other two similar threads that you posted. All three threads has merits and with personal experiences, recommendations, and preferences shared.

It's up to you now to filter through them and come up with a decision. We can only give you advice but you have the ultimate decision to make. Go with the decision you can live with.

This is not going to be your last purchase or build; life is too short not to enjoy life.

Happy safe hunting/shooting. Cheers!

Ed
 
How about we stop the BS about how good Savage is, when we ALL know they've had just as many (and the same) issues that Remington has... So have ALL mass-manufacturers.

You know and I know that Remington has had the most problems. Again don't take my word for it go back over this thread and any Rem. thread see for yourself.
 
Don't buy the cheapest model of any rifle because they will have all of the cheapest parts and the chances are good that they will not shoot very well are high. The mid range will normally have the better parts and chances are better of getting a good one. Top of the line factory rifles normally have the same barrels as the mid range rifles but you will pay for looks and a few extra features
that will have little or no effect on accuracy.

J E CUSTOM

+1 on this for my experience. The mid range Remingtons seem to shoot better than the SPS or ADL versions. If I were to buy one of those again, I would wait for a killer deal and have it worked on and replace the barrel. Then you are up to the mid range model price but will have a better gun.
 
.....It's not about believing hype and BS............

For me about trying to stay objective, and reasonable. In the end we're talking about recreational equipment.

I have two Tikkas, for the most part they've performed well, but if asked I'm going to tell you their magazines suck, replacements are God awful overpriced, and conversion is expensive from my experience. The stocks are functional, but can be improved.

Is it reasonable to expect an $800 rifle to perform like a $4000 rifle?

As the one passes the 4000 round mark, the rate the kids are pouring ammo through it, the question becomes, Do I buy another one, and hope to get lucky? Do I re barrel, restock, convert the bottom metal, basically buy that $4000 rifle on time? Do I call one of the known builders, and pony up the cash from the start?

No manufacturer should be above a critique of their product, and rationalizing away problems as "Yeah an occasional one gets through" doesn't push them to improve their quality.
 
You know and I know that Remington has had the most problems. Again don't take my word for it go back over this thread and any Rem. thread see for yourself.

Not to discredit anyone on here, because most of the folks on here are legit...But you can't believe everything that you read on the internet.

Also, it only makes sense that you would hear more people complain about the non-shooting ones, versus people talking about how well their's shoots. Since most internet forums are about helping to solve problems or discuss things, why would everyone need to jump on the internet and talk about how well their new 700 ADL or SPS shoots?
 
Perhaps expectation management is a better discussion point. A cheap mass produced gun has a higher risk for lower performance than one that costs more. I have, and have shot, many brands and models of guns and about half of them shoot 1 to 1.5" groups and the others are 0.5 to 1" groups. Some just need a few simple touch ups and some had to go back to the factory for major overhauls. I have a friend who bought a 700 sps long range and it shoots great compared to my regular SPS that I put a B&C stock and Timney on (both guns are 7mm RM and bought within the last year). Besides the trigger and the barrel contours, there is nothing different.

I've had little I can blame on an action type. One thing is for sure, there are far more aftermarket parts for a 700 than any other brand. That has merit.

As for the OP, I think the models you are considering could get you the accuracy you want and more than likely with hand loads.
 
I was thinking about getting a Sendero in 7mm, and a couple CDL SF rifles in variose calibers and was wondering if the accuracy would be worth the risk.
I was wanting a CDL SF in 35 whelen, 7-mm-08, and 22-250. I would be reloading for all of them, but am not interested in a rifle that can't do an inch or less with reloads. I have not owned a Remington in probably twenty five years, but have read about their accuracy going down hill horribly. I have also talked to others that have stated that its WAY over blown. Yet others have even said that it depends on which models, and that the CDL SF and the Sendero will have no problem producing good groups with hand loads. At this point Im as confused as I can get......lol
What say you? Thanks

Just realized you posted the same thing nearly a year ago >>> http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/remington-accuracy-worth-chance-159765/
 

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Not to discredit anyone on here, because most of the folks on here are legit...But you can't believe everything that you read on the internet.

Also, it only makes sense that you would hear more people complain about the non-shooting ones, versus people talking about how well their's shoots. Since most internet forums are about helping to solve problems or discuss things, why would everyone need to jump on the internet and talk about how well their new 700 ADL or SPS shoots?

LOL ya'll got an answer for everything. You're not changing my mind about "NEW" Remingtons. Like I said before I have some older Rems. and they are some of the best rifles I own. Rem. customer service sucks. So if you want to help somebody solve problems about Rems. start with their customer service.
 
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