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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 1016133" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>How many different yardages does David Tubb shoot in his competition? I believe the answer is one (1). And does David Tubb get sighter shots before firing his counting shots for score? I believe the answer is yes. If a person only shoots at one range, and sights in for that range with practice rounds before firing the shot that counts, your statement of "<em>to hell with the worry about rifle cant</em>" has very limited merit. I'll give you this: it's possible to position the gun upside down or at any other any angle of constant cant, if the rifle is planted in a fixed vise and corrected to POI immediately prior to firing the shot that counts. </p><p></p><p>Ask David Tubbs if he adds 7 degrees of cant to his hunting rifle, when intending to engage at variable and unknown distances across variable terrain. Or ask military snipers if they advise that snipers mount their scopes canted. Or ask long range hunters how many of them purposely add 7 degrees of cant to their rifle setups.</p><p></p><p>A rifle canted 7 degrees serves no beneficial purpose to a hunter encountering game under a multitude of ranges, slopes, and terrain. So why post it on a Forum dedicated to Long Range Hunting, and then seek to justify the statement by example of benchrest competition?</p><p></p><p>"<em>The rifle can be canted to hell and back....as long as the scope is leveled from shot to shot!"</em> <u>PROVIDED</u> that the canted rifle and scope are never used to shoot at a game animal at any distance other than the distance they were zeroed for. Because a canted rifle adds a leftward or rightward drift to each bullet fired, as well as an elevation drift, that rifles set up without cant do not experience.</p><p></p><p>Look again at the diagram in Post #63, and explain why any long range hunter would benefit from firing at game with their rifle canted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 1016133, member: 4191"] How many different yardages does David Tubb shoot in his competition? I believe the answer is one (1). And does David Tubb get sighter shots before firing his counting shots for score? I believe the answer is yes. If a person only shoots at one range, and sights in for that range with practice rounds before firing the shot that counts, your statement of "[I]to hell with the worry about rifle cant[/I]" has very limited merit. I'll give you this: it's possible to position the gun upside down or at any other any angle of constant cant, if the rifle is planted in a fixed vise and corrected to POI immediately prior to firing the shot that counts. Ask David Tubbs if he adds 7 degrees of cant to his hunting rifle, when intending to engage at variable and unknown distances across variable terrain. Or ask military snipers if they advise that snipers mount their scopes canted. Or ask long range hunters how many of them purposely add 7 degrees of cant to their rifle setups. A rifle canted 7 degrees serves no beneficial purpose to a hunter encountering game under a multitude of ranges, slopes, and terrain. So why post it on a Forum dedicated to Long Range Hunting, and then seek to justify the statement by example of benchrest competition? "[I]The rifle can be canted to hell and back....as long as the scope is leveled from shot to shot!"[/I] [U]PROVIDED[/U] that the canted rifle and scope are never used to shoot at a game animal at any distance other than the distance they were zeroed for. Because a canted rifle adds a leftward or rightward drift to each bullet fired, as well as an elevation drift, that rifles set up without cant do not experience. Look again at the diagram in Post #63, and explain why any long range hunter would benefit from firing at game with their rifle canted. [/QUOTE]
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