Howa 1500 6.5 saum feeding problem

[Blacktail]

I picked up a 6.5 SAUM for my son that sits on a 1500. Took it out today and shot decent but feeds awful. Basically if 2-3 rounds are loaded into the mag minute bolt clears top 1 or even 2 rounds pop out the rifle. I was able to load two and if cycled quick enough will work. 3 rounds with bolt closed on an empty chamber is really tight. even if I load three 1 in chamber and two in magazine and fire the one round as I cycle the bolt the second round pops right out the magazine. A smith recommended the ptg box and aics magazine. Wondering if or which magazine will even work with these fat 6.5 saum cartridges or should I just try a new follower and spring? Thanks I am kind of panicked as this is my sons bday gun for 6/17 trying to get it dialed for him. thnx

 

[ShtrRdy]

I had something similar with a 300 win mag after I changed stocks. I was able to bend the magazine feed lips very slightly and that was enough to hold the rounds in.

 

[Blacktail]

On the spring this has a hinges floor plate

 

[Blacktail]

I'm contemplating or would like to go to DBM setup but don't know if I can find a magazine these fat 6.5 Saum rounds

 

[shortgrass]

Was this 1500 originally a WSM? If not, you have magazine problems. Just take a look at how Rem deals with this. Different mag box for the fatter cartridges. Different follower , for the fatter cartridges. If your action isn't set-up for the fatter cartridges you will have the problems you are experiencing. I will be out in my shop later today and I will check-out some DM I have with WSM brass and relay the results. "Center feed" would cure a lot of the feeding problems when using an action NOT specifically designed for the cartridge you are trying to feed.

 

[EddieHarren]

Was this 1500 originally a WSM? If not, you have magazine problems. Just take a look at how Rem deals with this. Different mag box for the fatter cartridges. Different follower , for the fatter cartridges. If your action isn't set-up for the fatter cartridges you will have the problems you are experiencing. I will be out in my shop later today and I will check-out some DM I have with WSM brass and relay the results. "Center feed" would cure a lot of the feeding problems when using an action NOT specifically designed for the cartridge you are trying to feed.

++++++ on the above.

 

[Blacktail]

I am thinking it wasn't based on not only the feeding issue but how extremely tight it is trying to load three in the magazine. I def like the idea of a DM!! I just can't seem to find any with a mag that I think would handle the fat cartridges. Everything I see is for .308. I wouldn't think that would work. I was going to cal PTG Tuesday

 

[shortgrass]

Good luck with calling PT&G . Their customer service is non-existent and no one who answers the phone knows anything...……. You are trying to cram too much cartridge into too small of a magazine. Those cartridges are so fat mag capacity is suffering. You can only fit so many in a given space, and you don't have that 'space' if you're trying to use a magazine designed for .308 class cartridges.

 

[Blacktail]

Exactly! I've found the ptg mag conversion and see AICS makes a mag that will accept 300 wsm cartridges but not sure if that mag will fit in the stealth conversion?

 

[shortgrass]

I would opt for CDI bottom metal. They'll even CNC inlet your stock for free if you buy from them or MidWay. CDI uses AIC mags.

 

[Blacktail]

Thnx!!!!