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<blockquote data-quote="specweldtom" data-source="post: 384530" data-attributes="member: 2580"><p>I used to shoot .308 match rifle and M1-A service rifle. The .308's are good at 1000 yds in the hands of shooters who can really dope wind. An example: a 10 mph 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock crosswind would deflect the LC 173gr Match bullet 6 feet at 1000Yds. If you couldn't read wind and correct for it, you either couldn't print on your own target at all, or you unintentionally hit the target on either side of yours. I shot the Any Rifle - Any Sight matches at 600 and 1000 with a homebuilt 7mm Rem Mag (168gr Matchkings) and a homebuilt .300 Win Mag (200gr Win full patch bullets). Average come-up from a 600 yd zero to 1000 yds with the .308 match round was 24 minutes. My come-up with the 7 Rem was 11 minutes. That flatter trajectory (higher velocity with high B/C bullets) also gave me a big advantage on wind bucking. I didn't have to be near as good with the 7 or the .300 to get on and shoot good scores. </p><p></p><p>The moral of this novel is that the .308 just gives away too much at 1000 yds, let alone a mile. I don't have the exterior ballistics handy, but I think that not far past 1000 yds, the .308 is going to go transonic and unstable. You're going to need a lot of rifle for 1760 yds. I would go with a boomer .338, like the Wby .338 x .378, the .338 Rum or Edge, the .338 Lapua, or the .338 Excalibur. A .50 Browning rifle would be great, but they are expensive, very large and heavy and not really a shoulder fired arm. The .408's and .416's are mostly proprietary (EVERYTHING is expensive) and also not very versatile. The .308 will reach a mile, but I predict that you will be lucky if you can find where it hits the ground, let alone a target. Sorry, but that's my opinion. </p><p></p><p>The ranch deal sounds great....Enjoy.</p><p></p><p>You didn't say how Zeus is doing.</p><p></p><p>As for me, other than getting long-winded, I'm doing pretty good, for a crippled old fat man. </p><p></p><p>Tom</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="specweldtom, post: 384530, member: 2580"] I used to shoot .308 match rifle and M1-A service rifle. The .308's are good at 1000 yds in the hands of shooters who can really dope wind. An example: a 10 mph 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock crosswind would deflect the LC 173gr Match bullet 6 feet at 1000Yds. If you couldn't read wind and correct for it, you either couldn't print on your own target at all, or you unintentionally hit the target on either side of yours. I shot the Any Rifle - Any Sight matches at 600 and 1000 with a homebuilt 7mm Rem Mag (168gr Matchkings) and a homebuilt .300 Win Mag (200gr Win full patch bullets). Average come-up from a 600 yd zero to 1000 yds with the .308 match round was 24 minutes. My come-up with the 7 Rem was 11 minutes. That flatter trajectory (higher velocity with high B/C bullets) also gave me a big advantage on wind bucking. I didn't have to be near as good with the 7 or the .300 to get on and shoot good scores. The moral of this novel is that the .308 just gives away too much at 1000 yds, let alone a mile. I don't have the exterior ballistics handy, but I think that not far past 1000 yds, the .308 is going to go transonic and unstable. You're going to need a lot of rifle for 1760 yds. I would go with a boomer .338, like the Wby .338 x .378, the .338 Rum or Edge, the .338 Lapua, or the .338 Excalibur. A .50 Browning rifle would be great, but they are expensive, very large and heavy and not really a shoulder fired arm. The .408's and .416's are mostly proprietary (EVERYTHING is expensive) and also not very versatile. The .308 will reach a mile, but I predict that you will be lucky if you can find where it hits the ground, let alone a target. Sorry, but that's my opinion. The ranch deal sounds great....Enjoy. You didn't say how Zeus is doing. As for me, other than getting long-winded, I'm doing pretty good, for a crippled old fat man. Tom [/QUOTE]
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