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Long Range Scopes and Other Optics
high value low cost optics, scopes binoculars, spotters ect.
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<blockquote data-quote="CogburnR" data-source="post: 804701" data-attributes="member: 29174"><p>I bet the junk 270 wsm shadow would have no problem killing elk at 500+ yards with little work. They are actually not that bad. They might not be the answer for 800-1000 but few 500$ rifles are. </p><p></p><p></p><p>A 270 wsm will shoot a 160g 650bc bullet at 3000fps, figure out the ballistics on that and compare it to a 7RM or 300WM. Depending on bullet the 270wsm can easily beat common 7RM and 300WM loadings.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Long Range starts at 600 or so and most people wouldn't be able to hit the broad side of a barn at 600 (or for many a 5 gallon pail at 100). </p><p></p><p>A good shooter with a decent shooting 500$ rifle, 100$ stock, and 250$ scope might be fully capable of moa shooting well out past 600 though. </p><p></p><p>There is nothing wrong with cheaper optics as long as people recognize there are probably real limitations to what they can do. The purpose of this thread is for people to share what lower end optics have performed better than their expectations. It would not be unheard of for a 200$ scope to beat a 500-600$ scope-hence the high value low cost optics. </p><p></p><p>I think everybody at some point once they shoot a while realize the value of good optics(and rifles), but for a lot of shooting some of the cheaper stuff works fine for practice and learning what is needed to really shoot long range.</p><p></p><p>If a scope can reliably be dialed and has enough internal adjustments to shoot longer distances hopefully people will list them on this thread instead of people telling other people that everything other than Nightforce and S&B is pure junk and that you can't shoot long range without a 5000$++ rig in 338 Lapua.gun)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CogburnR, post: 804701, member: 29174"] I bet the junk 270 wsm shadow would have no problem killing elk at 500+ yards with little work. They are actually not that bad. They might not be the answer for 800-1000 but few 500$ rifles are. A 270 wsm will shoot a 160g 650bc bullet at 3000fps, figure out the ballistics on that and compare it to a 7RM or 300WM. Depending on bullet the 270wsm can easily beat common 7RM and 300WM loadings. Long Range starts at 600 or so and most people wouldn't be able to hit the broad side of a barn at 600 (or for many a 5 gallon pail at 100). A good shooter with a decent shooting 500$ rifle, 100$ stock, and 250$ scope might be fully capable of moa shooting well out past 600 though. There is nothing wrong with cheaper optics as long as people recognize there are probably real limitations to what they can do. The purpose of this thread is for people to share what lower end optics have performed better than their expectations. It would not be unheard of for a 200$ scope to beat a 500-600$ scope-hence the high value low cost optics. I think everybody at some point once they shoot a while realize the value of good optics(and rifles), but for a lot of shooting some of the cheaper stuff works fine for practice and learning what is needed to really shoot long range. If a scope can reliably be dialed and has enough internal adjustments to shoot longer distances hopefully people will list them on this thread instead of people telling other people that everything other than Nightforce and S&B is pure junk and that you can't shoot long range without a 5000$++ rig in 338 Lapua.gun) [/QUOTE]
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