I just found this site...lots of great info....I do alot of shooting with several 17HM2s.The ammo is hard to find these days...but I sure do like it for those longer shots at squirrels and Rabbits. I have winter fun shooting Crows with my 17HMR CZ452 rifle also.Varmint shooting with small calibers is my favorite and have made numerous trips to Montana and the Dakotas for Priarie dogs.