Help with long range stock selection

[Deerhunter89]

Im looking for some advice from anyone who is willing to give it about selecting a long range hunting stock. I current have a manners mcs-t on my custom rig. Its a 7mm rem mag with a blueprinted and trued remington 700 long action and a brux #4 barell, talley high rings and a zeiss conquest v6 5-30x50 scope. The manners mcs t is a nice stock with an excellent comb height but i do not like the grip at all, its more in between feeling to me (not quite vertical and not quite traditional) Ive shot traditional grip rifles all my life, for example a browning x bolt and remington 700 bdl with a factory wood stock so thats what im most used to but i also have a browning x bolt hells canyon long range with the mcmillan game scout stock and i really like that stock other than the low comb height. I also like the texture and feel of the mcmillan better than the manners elite hunter carbon fiber shell, the manners feels too smooth and harder to grip firmly than the mcmillan, the mcmillan has a much better texture and easier to hold on to while wearing glove when hunting. Anyways the stocks im looking at or as follows...manners eh6A, manner eh1, mcmillan game hunter, mcmillan game stalker, or grayboe outlander with an adjustable cheek piece. I deer hunt in the southeast and shots can be from any position, free hand while standing, from treestands (some with good rifle rests and some not so great), sitiing, prone, off of primos trigger sticks, or even off the hood of a truck with a jacket underneath the forearm for support. I built this rifle with the dream of one day going to wyoming, Montana, or colorado on an elk or mule deer hunt so the rifle would be used for spot and stalk style hunting as well. I like a rifle to have some weight to it as i find it easier to hold steady for long distance shots but also dont want a piece of pulp wood to tote around either. It currents weights a tad over 9.5 lbs with the manners t and honestly feels a bit front heavy. I would the total weight with scope to be from 10 to 10.5 lbs. So any and all suggestions or advice about the stocks listed above would be greatly appreciated and also what do you guys find to be the best grip for all arpund hunting with the intention of making long range shots when need be from any given position, vertical such as the mcmillan game hunter and manners eh1 or more traditional such as the mcmillan game stalker, manners eh6a or grayboe outlander? Thanks ahead of time for the help.

 

[shooter7]

If you like the Game Scout with the exception of the low cheek, you'll probably really like the the Game Hunter. It's the same thing with a raised cheek. My hunting partner runs one and it's very comfortable to shoot. I've carried it a few times and do say that I prefer a more traditional style stock for carrying on long hunts, but for a combination LR/carry rifle, I think it's fantastic.

 

[Deerhunter89]

Thank you so much for the reply. So it would be no problem with the game hunter to shoot off hand or from less than ideal situatuions when the need arises? I also read on mcmillans website that the forearm on the game hunter is 1.9" wide? In your experience with the game hunter is still comfortable to hold while shooting off hand?

 

[sierracharlie338]

Have you looked at the Game Warden from McMillan? It's one of my favorites. Vertical grip and with an adjustable cheek piece you can get any height you want. With the edge fill it is crazy light if you are looking to cut weight.

You can get a game scout with adj cheek piece also.

 

[shooter7]

Thank you so much for the reply. So it would be no problem with the game hunter to shoot off hand or from less than ideal situatuions when the need arises? I also read on mcmillans website that the forearm on the game hunter is 1.9" wide? In your experience with the game hunter is still comfortable to hold while shooting off hand?

For me the Game Hunter does feel a bit blocky in my hand with the forearm being that wide. I do have rather large hands so It may be more exaggerated for someone with average or small hands. Overall I don't feel like its shape is detrimental to taking quick off hand shots.

 

[Deerhunter89]

Yes sir ive looked at them online but never have had the oppurtunity to actually hold one. What makes the game warden preferable to you vs the game hunter?

 

[Deerhunter89]

Yea im more of an averaged size guy, 5' 8" 170lbs and averaged sized hands so i worry that as ypu said it may feel more blocky to me, but i do like the comb height gained with the game hunter

For me the Game Hunter does feel a bit blocky in my hand with the forearm being that wide. I do have rather large hands so It may be more exaggerated for someone with average or small hands. Overall I don't feel like its shape is detrimental to taking quick off hand shots.

 

[sierracharlie338]

Yes sir ive looked at them online but never have had the oppurtunity to actually hold one. What makes the game warden preferable to you vs the game hunter?

In all honesty it's mostly looks for me. They both have a vertical grip but I prefer the adj cheek piece instead of a Monte Carlo style stock. I'm about your size and the game warden is a great fit for me in any shooting position, even standing.

 

[Deerhunter89]

In all honesty it's mostly looks for me. They both have a vertical grip but I prefer the adj cheek piece instead of a Monte Carlo style stock. I'm about your size and the game warden is a great fit for me in any shooting position, even standing.

Thank you for the information. Ive never used an adjustable cheek, does it feel odd against your cheek when its raised and you have a gap between the stock and the cheek piece or can you even notice it?

 

[XSIVSPD]

Thank you for the information. Ive never used an adjustable cheek, does it feel odd against your cheek when its raised and you have a gap between the stock and the cheek piece or can you even notice it?

I've never noticed the gap on any of my adjustable stocks. The only time I notice any issues us when the comb is very short and not adjustable forward and back (like the boyds AT-1) then sometimes in odd positions I'll notice that my cheek is at one end or tge other of it

 

[Deerhunter89]

I've never noticed the gap on any of my adjustable stocks. The only time I notice any issues us when the comb is very short and not adjustable forward and back (like the boyds AT-1) then sometimes in odd positions I'll notice that my cheek is at one end or tge other of it

Thank you. I didnt even realize that most adjusted forwards or back i thought they only adjusted vertically. Good to know, thanks alot.

 

[XSIVSPD]

Thank you. I didnt even realize that most adjusted forwards or back i thought they only adjusted vertically. Good to know, thanks alot.

I guess I should clarify, most do not adjust forward and back, but if the cheek piece is short you may notice it if it does not adjust.

Typically these short ones are on things like the boyds AT-1 or some of the adjustable ar15 stocks. Almost all of the adjustable Hunting type stocks have a long cheek piece.

Just something to be aware of.

Notice how much smaller the adjustable piece is than the the actual comb

 

[Deerhunter89]

I see what your saying i understand now. Thank you for that.

 

[Another Casual]

Fit makes a big difference in recoil and feel, but it's often hard to check out these custom stocks in person. Manners will mail you samples to try if you pay for shipping. The grayboe outlander is on the remington AWR, if you can find one in stock.

I liked the grayboe but the cheek was too low for me. I went with an EH6 as this was before the lighter outlander with the adjustable check option. I like the cheek weld and traditional grip. I also have an EH1 on a target rifle and love that stock as well.


Grayboe has 20% off for black friday, might be enough to sway me if I was in your position. Should be $383 with the adjustable cheek if my math is right.