Rocky Mtn, I just did whatyou suggested Mikercr, I am trying to sort this out , a bench buddy of mine that is out of town looked and said I had donuts, it looks to me like you can see a weird band down in neck. He said it was odd for me to have a donut, he loads 6mm dasher.I started with new norma brass, 4.069 on .420 bushing, fired 4.075, I had to size it seemed to 4.073 or 4.072, not at first with brass short. But this was to close bolt easy, in beggining I pulled spring so I could really feel bolt.Then I shot hyb.touch was 3.845 or coal of 3.682, I WENT 3.840 on comparator. This appears to put boat tail above the shoulder / neck junction. When I fired the new brass youcould see a clean line of brass about 1/16 above the shoulder, this got a little lower as sized more. I full lengthed all but new, then just neck area. On 2-3 to 4 I full lengthed to the 4.072, .001 less before that.When I was loading I decided to try some 285, which I WAS GOING to seat deeper. I had checked all brass for fit, when I tried the 285 it was tight, but the hyb, was smooth. I was not in lands. I put a .375 bushing on my comparator and my rounds where growing more with the bullet seated deeper, buy a bit. I took sizing way past and down to 4.065, I knew I did not want to size that far, so gave up and loaded the berger. But the neck shoulder junction was causing me problems and the gun seems picky in that area. I started with a tapered lapua bushing gauge and the farther I read toward shoulder seems to mean less for fit. Since this is so long, my next ? is what do you think on how much neck sizing IM getting and what route to lessen, it is 338 nm,didnot see a bushing bump die.Neck shot.370,loaded.365, out of sizer .364, your thoughts appreciated