Hammer 177 vs Berger 195

[Kmccord]

I've shot a good number of elk with both bullets, I carried both, zeroed for the 177 HH and then dialed for the 195 Berger. Probably one of the best combinations possible from a 28 Nosler. You can make a mess with a 195, it's aggressive inside 800 and IMO really starts coming into perfection out beyond 1000, took elk with them well beyond that down to 1600 fps from a start of 3120 which is pushing it, I don't think there is a one bullet solution for the 28.

What twist are you running the 177 HH in your 28 Nosler?

 

[bigngreen]

What twist are you running the 177 HH in your 28 Nosler?

Rock Creek 1-8 twist.

 

[Kmccord]

I started to purchase the 177gr, but another member on here has a 1-8 twist as well, but has some issues with stabilization three would group then a flyer with an oblong impression on paper. I ended up dropping down to the 169gr HH and they seem to work great in my 28 with a 1-8 twist.

 

[chetraguse]

I have a 8 twist 7mm blaser improved and mine seem to be grouping very well, few one hole 5 shot groups. But I'm early into testing them. Didn't know how much I wanted to get involved with them if people liked the 195's better.

 

[Schw15]

For solid coppers I think over spinning them is better if it says min twist rate at 1-8 go 1-7.5 or 7. I ran mine 1 twist rate faster than needed

 

[Huntnful]

I started to purchase the 177gr, but another member on here has a 1-8 twist as well, but has some issues with stabilization three would group then a flyer with an oblong impression on paper. I ended up dropping down to the 169gr HH and they seem to work great in my 28 with a 1-8 twist.

The 177's did not stabilize in my 1-8 twist 28 nosler either. I'm at sea level. The 169's shot great though.

As far as the original post goes, they both kill great. If you want traumatic shock on impact and better wind resistance, use the 195's. If you want an exit hole, use the 177's. I would say that's the only "benefit" (if you view it that way) of the hammers over the bergers. Deeper penetration and more than likely an exit. The hammers also stay in tune much longer in the 28 nosler since they're fairly jump tolerant as the throat erodes pretty quick.