First time failure with Thunder Beast Arms Ultra 9 DT GEN 2 and Silencer Co accessories.

[Kimber7man]

So Scheels recommended an adapter that the suppressor manufacturer doesn't recommend, and then proceeds to tell you that for liability reasons they can't install the adapter they recommend? Sounds fishy right there. The TBAC CB adapters work perfectly fine, and a TBAC direct thread suppressor is simply the suppressor with a CB mount rocksetted in it.

Was the Cooper rifle muzzle thread 5/8x24?

 

[marc357]

Sounds like a real bummer. I am curious/ confused though: what is an "adapter ring"?

 

[lancetkenyon]

Tunderbeast are the ONLY suppressors I run. Four of them. There is a reason that TBAC is the most used and winningest can on the PRS circuit.

Ultra 7 Gen 1 6.5mm
Ultra 9 Gen 1 .308
Dominus .308
Ultra 7 Gen 2 6.5mm
All using the TBAC CB

Except for the Ultra 7 Gen 2, I have thousands of rounds down three of my cans. Not a single issue. Swap them around between several rifles all the time.

You should not have mixed and matched the SilercerCo brake with the TBAC can. Not even close to the mating surfaces of TBAC CB mount. Sounds like you were trying to build the Cadillac in the Johnny Cash song "One Piece at a Time". Was your barrel threaded 1/2"×28 like the Cooper Backcountry? There is a reason TBAC only makes a .223cal version in the 1/2"×28 threads. 5/8"×24 and bigger threads are bored for both the .308 or 6.5mm cans. If your "adapter" was a 1/2"×28 to 5/8"×24, that should have been a big red flag as to why TBAC didn't make the right CB for your application. If that is not it, don't know what to tell you. All TBAC cans come with one CB of your choice if they are not the DT model. So there should have been another red flag.

Sorry, but I can see why TBAC and SilencerCo wouldn't warranty their products, there were no defects in them. Just an installation issue.

Going back and re-reading your original post, there are so many red flags with the initial installation, the info you received from Scheels and your "gunsmith", it is staggering. This sounds like a total cluster.... of misinformation.

Sorry you had to go through this tough learning curve.

 

[Tom264]

I agree with lance.
He put it into better words than I could.

 

[Pdvdh]

Bottom Line: You shot your suppressor. A bad deal, and a rookie mistake. Not the manufacturer's fault or problem.

 

[quandary]

I have a TBAC Ultra 7 and an Ultra 9 all run with the TBAC CB 30 brake. They are fantastic.

Your suppressor was likely loosening from the mount that Scheels had you jury rig and thus sagged causing the baffle strike. None of this is TBAC's fault or Silencer Central's fault. Any fault to be had is Scheel's for selling you a hodgepodge and your's for not checking the tightness of the suppressor on a regular basis at the range. You also used way to much red loctite. 2 or 3 small drops is more than sufficient.

I would suggest you go to the Scheels where you bought all this stuff and sit down with the store manage and demand a refund.

 

[FEENIX]

Scheels did you dirty by selling you multiple items that they knew less than nothing about.

So Scheels recommended an adapter that the suppressor manufacturer doesn't recommend, and then proceeds to tell you that for liability reasons they can't install the adapter they recommend? Sounds fishy right there.

I'm sorry, but caveat emptor comes to mind! As far as I know (at least in my local Scheels), firearms-related services are limited to installing and boresighting scopes. But I trust no one to boresight and install my scopes.

Yesterday, I bought a new Chrono at Scheels. I spoke to a salesperson who said they had it, and it was their last one. I asked him to set it aside for me to pick up. No sales pitch was involved because I already knew what I wanted, as I had researched. If I made the wrong decision on my purchase, it is on me.

Sorry, but I can see why TBAC and SilencerCo wouldn't warranty their products, there were no defects in them. Just an installation issue.

It's unfortunate, but I agree.

 

[HandgunHTR]

One of the main issues with using QD suppressors is that a lot of the time, there isn't a foolproof way to ensure that the suppressor is fully seated on the muzzle device. A lot of time it may look and feel like it is, but it isn't. That is why the taper mounts have become more popular.

I have used and recommended "aftermarket" parts for suppressors on multiple occasions and have yet to have that cause an issue, as long as everything is mounted correctly. You may want to have someone verify that the threads on your barrel are concentric to the bore. A lot of time, if it done by the factory, they are not. When putting on a 2" long muzzle brake that is .2" overbore, there isn't much danger if the threads are off a bit. Hang a 9" long suppressor on the end, and that changes significantly.

As for the muzzle devices and Rocksett. You have to SOAK, them in hot water to loosen them, not just dip. The fact that your gunsmith didn't know that and used heat to get them off says a lot about him.

One more question that I have for you. Were your muzzle devices just a radial brake or flash hider, or were they muzzle brakes that required timing? If they were the latter, what did you use to make sure they were timed correctly? Crush washers or peel washers? If it was the former, there is a less than zero percent chance that the crush washer applied unequal force to the back of the muzzle device, inducing cant. Again, for a standard muzzle device, not an issue. Hang a long suppressor off of it and the chance of a baffle strike becomes much more significant.