Finnaly after five years of hunting dutch creek I got my first elk. 7:45 pm on the second day a lone bull steped out to graze. with light fadeing quick no time to stock I ranged the bull at 568 yards doped the wind NIL then checked my chart 560y= 10.2 MOA diled my VXIII 6x5x20x50 (BOOM) the 190 VLD flies true and the elk planted with a high sholder hit Yah hoo