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Dall sheep or mountain goat - which is a better hunt?
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<blockquote data-quote="hammertyme" data-source="post: 617114" data-attributes="member: 12863"><p>Having hunted both for the better part of 35 years I can say that the hairest hunts I have ever been on were goat hunting in Kodiak and out of Cordova/Valdez.</p><p> </p><p>Out of a dozen goat taken my wifes goat is the only one that did not have any horn damage at all.</p><p> </p><p>I have walked up streams as that was the only way into certain areas that were ankle deep going in and crotch deep coming out.</p><p>Dry and warm going in and 6 inches of snow and a blinding blizzard caused us to choose straight off the side of the mountain so we could repelled using the alders. Pouring down rain gusting to 55mph when we got to camp. By the time we got to the boat I stood arm pit deep in the surf while my partner started the boat.</p><p> </p><p>One day we went in over in Cordova, spent the night and went the rest of the way up the hill after goat we had spotted the evening before. Freezing rain hit and the clouds dropped ontp the ground. Who takes crampons goat hunting August 20th? It was incredibly dangerous getting off the mountain when we could see where to goat.</p><p> </p><p>Three years ago a friend against my advise flew out for a 10 day hunt. 8.5 days he spent in the tent in heavy rain,ground fog and high winds. 12 different bear were seen up close and personal where he was hunting above Old Harbor.</p><p> </p><p>ANother very good freind shot his goat while wearing slippery rain gear because it was raining hard. He walked up to the edge to see where the goat went. Told his young son to stay put as it was very steeep as dad went down to find his goat. Dad took a ride on the seat of his pants and went over a short cliff at who knows how fast. He handed in a deep mud slide up to both knees in mud. Looking at his 4th back surgery !</p><p> </p><p>I like sheep hunting a lot, over goat hunting because I am usually in shorts and a t-shirt. Yes I have seen snow when I woke up in the morning and it got to 80 degrees during the day and it was gone. I have seen heavy rain once sheep hunting and drizzle a few times. It is Alaska so Alaska weather is what we get. Coast weather especially when you are along Prince William Sound or the Shelikoff is much less dependable than dry interior weather.</p><p> </p><p>I took a guy 15 years my Junior goat hunting last fall. The first time he went on his own as I was busy. I showed him from the road through a spotting scope a very nice billy. I got a call later in the day that he did not make it to the billy and had run out of energy fighting the heavy (HEAVY) brush long before he got anywhere near the goat. He was flying back to Anchorage. I encouraged him to walk hours of stairs at the local hospital and come back in three weeks. He came back in three weeks and I broke trail clear to the top of the mountain. He made it to 500 yards of the goat and I thought I was going to have to beat feet off the mountain and call in a medivac. It is not just the steep! It is the heavy brush that grips your every step that can be the killer goat hunting. SHeep hunting I can usually find another way.</p><p> </p><p>Tony Gettel went on his goat hunt last year I think ( Stock Maker) where he flew in late in the season on a glacier right near the animals. Tony shot his goat and where it ended up the guide refused to allow Tony to go and help retrieve the animal do to very dangerous conditions.</p><p> </p><p>My wife says: SHeep hunting has lots of other fun stuff to do like picking berries,flowers see lots of other stuff and it seldom rains. Goat hunting is like poking ones self in the eye over and over again to see if it hurts or feels any different over time. In other words insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result!</p><p> </p><p>Neal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hammertyme, post: 617114, member: 12863"] Having hunted both for the better part of 35 years I can say that the hairest hunts I have ever been on were goat hunting in Kodiak and out of Cordova/Valdez. Out of a dozen goat taken my wifes goat is the only one that did not have any horn damage at all. I have walked up streams as that was the only way into certain areas that were ankle deep going in and crotch deep coming out. Dry and warm going in and 6 inches of snow and a blinding blizzard caused us to choose straight off the side of the mountain so we could repelled using the alders. Pouring down rain gusting to 55mph when we got to camp. By the time we got to the boat I stood arm pit deep in the surf while my partner started the boat. One day we went in over in Cordova, spent the night and went the rest of the way up the hill after goat we had spotted the evening before. Freezing rain hit and the clouds dropped ontp the ground. Who takes crampons goat hunting August 20th? It was incredibly dangerous getting off the mountain when we could see where to goat. Three years ago a friend against my advise flew out for a 10 day hunt. 8.5 days he spent in the tent in heavy rain,ground fog and high winds. 12 different bear were seen up close and personal where he was hunting above Old Harbor. ANother very good freind shot his goat while wearing slippery rain gear because it was raining hard. He walked up to the edge to see where the goat went. Told his young son to stay put as it was very steeep as dad went down to find his goat. Dad took a ride on the seat of his pants and went over a short cliff at who knows how fast. He handed in a deep mud slide up to both knees in mud. Looking at his 4th back surgery ! I like sheep hunting a lot, over goat hunting because I am usually in shorts and a t-shirt. Yes I have seen snow when I woke up in the morning and it got to 80 degrees during the day and it was gone. I have seen heavy rain once sheep hunting and drizzle a few times. It is Alaska so Alaska weather is what we get. Coast weather especially when you are along Prince William Sound or the Shelikoff is much less dependable than dry interior weather. I took a guy 15 years my Junior goat hunting last fall. The first time he went on his own as I was busy. I showed him from the road through a spotting scope a very nice billy. I got a call later in the day that he did not make it to the billy and had run out of energy fighting the heavy (HEAVY) brush long before he got anywhere near the goat. He was flying back to Anchorage. I encouraged him to walk hours of stairs at the local hospital and come back in three weeks. He came back in three weeks and I broke trail clear to the top of the mountain. He made it to 500 yards of the goat and I thought I was going to have to beat feet off the mountain and call in a medivac. It is not just the steep! It is the heavy brush that grips your every step that can be the killer goat hunting. SHeep hunting I can usually find another way. Tony Gettel went on his goat hunt last year I think ( Stock Maker) where he flew in late in the season on a glacier right near the animals. Tony shot his goat and where it ended up the guide refused to allow Tony to go and help retrieve the animal do to very dangerous conditions. My wife says: SHeep hunting has lots of other fun stuff to do like picking berries,flowers see lots of other stuff and it seldom rains. Goat hunting is like poking ones self in the eye over and over again to see if it hurts or feels any different over time. In other words insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result! Neal [/QUOTE]
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