when David Petzal speaks I listen, anyway I got my wife shooting a 22 then I got her a 20ga.single shot for squirrel she loves that gun its a New England it kicks like a mule then I got her a rem. 870 20ga. Youth model,perfect for her she has shot more squirrels than me with those to guns,but after she got used to the recoil she can take my 3006 with 200gr. Smks and shoot it out to 300yrds with authority I think that cheap new England 20 made her fearless to recoil to an extent anyway she doesn't like my 3.5in. Turkey loads but she'll shoot anything I'll shoot...