TackDriv3r
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Hello, I am new on this forum, after I just read one article and seemed like a nice place to join a long range shooting forum. Sorry to make this little interesting article too long but its a pretty good read for those who have a 7mm STW.
I always used Rem brass for my 7mm STW for 20 years and looks like its on its way to its 4th barrel soon, until I wanted to check out Nosler's new brass they made for the STW, so I ordered 3 boxes from Nosler but those new brass is not what it seems to be. I have always used Remington brass and its what the rifle likes for .4 to .5 MOA 3 shop group for hunting using RL22 and 150 Scirocco. As of now Rem brass is hard to find and currently discontinued on Midway, so I used the new Noslers and handloaded 20 rounds with max loads of RL22 and 7828 tipped with Swift Scirocco. When I arrived at the range, fired off the first round, closing of the bolt was normal,,on the 2nd round the bolt was pretty hard to close, did not worry too much about it and fired it, on the 3rd round it was very hard, so I extracted it and put in a 4th round, the bolt won't close at all, ***, so I put in a 5th round, it was very hard to close too, so I extracted it. I sorted out the remaining, so 13 rounds was very hard to close and 5 was not able to close at all, and only 2 closed fine. This is ridiculous because I went home and resized my fired and new Rem brass, and they all were fine. Even tried to screw in the dies down more and bump the shoulders on the Noslers, nothing seemed to work. I got on the phone and spoke to a friend who is a local gunsmith, low and behold, he was also working on a customer's gun which is a STW 7mm, and he has the same issue with Nosler brass. Nosler brass worked find on my 7mm Mag, but not the STW. Gunsmith says that the belt of the case is 25 thousands longer over specifications. So I called Nosler and the smart *** representative says " We have the best engineers who design and make our brass, so the problem is your gun" What a jackass because its nothing to do with my gun so I sent my rifle to New Mexico to have a gunsmith look it over and I am pretty sure I shot the barrel close to its final worn stage, since he has the gun and wanted to convert it to a different caliber such as a 300 Win Mag, but I would like you guys to chime in and say what you would want to do if you were in my shoes since 30 caliber has a very long list of brass and bullet manufactures over 7 mm and to eliminate the brass issues from Nosler and shortage of brass for the STW. My other issue is 300 Win Mag is a little shorter by about an inch and may be loose in the magazine and will it have chambering issues? Is the action too long for 300 Win Mag? Hope you guys choose what caliber you would convert it to and Thanks for the chime if any.
TackDriver
I always used Rem brass for my 7mm STW for 20 years and looks like its on its way to its 4th barrel soon, until I wanted to check out Nosler's new brass they made for the STW, so I ordered 3 boxes from Nosler but those new brass is not what it seems to be. I have always used Remington brass and its what the rifle likes for .4 to .5 MOA 3 shop group for hunting using RL22 and 150 Scirocco. As of now Rem brass is hard to find and currently discontinued on Midway, so I used the new Noslers and handloaded 20 rounds with max loads of RL22 and 7828 tipped with Swift Scirocco. When I arrived at the range, fired off the first round, closing of the bolt was normal,,on the 2nd round the bolt was pretty hard to close, did not worry too much about it and fired it, on the 3rd round it was very hard, so I extracted it and put in a 4th round, the bolt won't close at all, ***, so I put in a 5th round, it was very hard to close too, so I extracted it. I sorted out the remaining, so 13 rounds was very hard to close and 5 was not able to close at all, and only 2 closed fine. This is ridiculous because I went home and resized my fired and new Rem brass, and they all were fine. Even tried to screw in the dies down more and bump the shoulders on the Noslers, nothing seemed to work. I got on the phone and spoke to a friend who is a local gunsmith, low and behold, he was also working on a customer's gun which is a STW 7mm, and he has the same issue with Nosler brass. Nosler brass worked find on my 7mm Mag, but not the STW. Gunsmith says that the belt of the case is 25 thousands longer over specifications. So I called Nosler and the smart *** representative says " We have the best engineers who design and make our brass, so the problem is your gun" What a jackass because its nothing to do with my gun so I sent my rifle to New Mexico to have a gunsmith look it over and I am pretty sure I shot the barrel close to its final worn stage, since he has the gun and wanted to convert it to a different caliber such as a 300 Win Mag, but I would like you guys to chime in and say what you would want to do if you were in my shoes since 30 caliber has a very long list of brass and bullet manufactures over 7 mm and to eliminate the brass issues from Nosler and shortage of brass for the STW. My other issue is 300 Win Mag is a little shorter by about an inch and may be loose in the magazine and will it have chambering issues? Is the action too long for 300 Win Mag? Hope you guys choose what caliber you would convert it to and Thanks for the chime if any.
TackDriver
